Wisconsin has negotiated a dramatically scaled-back deal with Foxconn
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Re: Wisconsin has negotiated a dramatically scaled-back deal with Foxconn
#2Can someone explain to me why Foxconn didn't build the plant? Why would they go through the trouble of negotiating this deal, which ended up phenomenally in their favor, just to throw their hands in the air and walk away?
Re: Wisconsin has negotiated a dramatically scaled-back deal with Foxconn
#3Can someone explain to me why Foxconn didn't build the plant? Why would they go through the trouble of negotiating this deal, which ended up phenomenally in their favor, just to throw their hands in the air and walk away?
In a nutshell, it mistook the nature of labor folks are used to here and its costs. Indeed wildly different from China and elsewhere.
Re: Wisconsin has negotiated a dramatically scaled-back deal with Foxconn
#4Is it just me or has it become more common for journalists to write about decreases by saying "X-fold" or "x times"?
I always get confused, I find it much easier to say "by 97%".
Re: Wisconsin has negotiated a dramatically scaled-back deal with Foxconn
#5Can someone explain to me why Foxconn didn't build the plant? Why would they go through the trouble of negotiating this deal, which ended up phenomenally in their favor, just to throw their hands in the air and walk away?
In a nutshell, it mistook the nature of labor folks are used to here and its costs. Indeed wildly different from China and elsewhere.
It’s funny that they are downvoting you for stating the obvious no-brainer explanation.
Just curious as I am seeing more of this on HN lately or is it just the Baader Meinhof phenomenon after I read someone else complain about the recent downvoting phenomenon for stating the obvious. Has the readership changed of HN or more specifically the commentariat?
Re: Wisconsin has negotiated a dramatically scaled-back deal with Foxconn
#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
In a nutshell, it mistook the nature of labor folks are used to here and its costs. Indeed wildly different from China and elsewhere.
It’s funny that they are downvoting you for stating the obvious no-brainer explanation. Just curious as I am seeing more of this on HN lately or is it just the Baader Meinhof phenomenon after I read someone else complain about the recent downvoting phenomenon for stating the obvious. Has the readership changed of HN or more specifically the commentariat?
It wasn't really my take or opinion, I rather recalled it being cited as the reason by Foxconn itself in multiple instances. Also, I'm from Wisconsin, and an old EECS professor explained this to be the reason from his first-hand knowledge of some conversations with Foxconn. Here is one citation I was able to find quickly:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-foxconn-wisconsin-exclusi...
He said the company was still evaluating options for Wisconsin, but cited the steep cost of making advanced TV screens in the United States, where labor expenses are comparatively high.
“In terms of TV, we have no place in the U.S.,” he said in an interview. “We can’t compete.”
Foxconn has factories in Mexico, Chennai, Malaysia etc. which produce a significant amount of devices but I doubt a factory in US will take off. This article from 2012 about the Steve Jobs "These jobs are not coming back" remark is probably still true: https://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/business/apple-america-an...
Re: Wisconsin has negotiated a dramatically scaled-back deal with Foxconn
#7The massive downward revision of this deal, and of Foxconn's commitment to create jobs in Wisconsin, is hardly a surprise. Foxconn has a history of reneging on promises to build factories, as was widely reported when this deal was first made in 2017:
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/foxconns-history-of-broken...
https://boingboing.net/2017/08/09/potemkin-factories.html
https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2017/08/20/op-ed-the-many-broken-...
Re: Wisconsin has negotiated a dramatically scaled-back deal with Foxconn
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
In a nutshell, it mistook the nature of labor folks are used to here and its costs. Indeed wildly different from China and elsewhere.
It’s funny that they are downvoting you for stating the obvious no-brainer explanation. Just curious as I am seeing more of this on HN lately or is it just the Baader Meinhof phenomenon after I read someone else complain about the recent downvoting phenomenon for stating the obvious. Has the readership changed of HN or more specifically the commentariat?
> Has the readership changed of HN or more specifically the commentariat?
My personal impression is, that it got a lot worse since Covid, which I attribute to more people doing home office and/or having more free time. Any discussion forum that grows gets worse.
But both my impressions and the 2nd part might be wrong.
Re: Wisconsin has negotiated a dramatically scaled-back deal with Foxconn
#9Is it just me or has it become more common for journalists to write about decreases by saying "X-fold" or "x times"? I always get confused, I find it much easier to say "by 97%".
Many people don't have a clue what "30-fold" even means, and therefore it sounds big and scary. Basically, it's just one of the tools in the sensationalist headlines toolbox.
Re: Wisconsin has negotiated a dramatically scaled-back deal with Foxconn
#10Can someone explain to me why Foxconn didn't build the plant? Why would they go through the trouble of negotiating this deal, which ended up phenomenally in their favor, just to throw their hands in the air and walk away?
Short story shorter: Terry Gou is a serial bullshitter
https://www.theverge.com/21507966/foxconn-empty-factories-wi...