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SponsorBlock – Skip over sponsorship segments on YouTube

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Re: SponsorBlock – Skip over sponsorship segments on YouTube

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Post by criddell »

csdreamer7 wrote: post #64

Blocking 3rd party network ads do deprive creators of revenue; but using uBlock Origins does have these important benefits: *Protects you from malicious attacks through 3rd party ad networks. *Keeps your browser fast from trackers. *Stops intrusive ads that literally take up 30% of your screen and move the website around making it difficult to read an article. But sponsored segments built into the video itself? It ha…

Would you ever use a DVR to skip television commercials? To me, it feels similar.

Re: SponsorBlock – Skip over sponsorship segments on YouTube

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Post by chrysoprace »

csdreamer7 wrote: post #64

Blocking 3rd party network ads do deprive creators of revenue; but using uBlock Origins does have these important benefits: *Protects you from malicious attacks through 3rd party ad networks. *Keeps your browser fast from trackers. *Stops intrusive ads that literally take up 30% of your screen and move the website around making it difficult to read an article. But sponsored segments built into the video itself? It ha…

If we assume you watch free-to-air TV (not that I do, personally), or at least used to. Do you walk away from the TV while an ad is playing? Or perhaps you have a DVR setup that lets you skip ahead if you're watching on a slight delay.

Is that any different to skipping a sponsorship segment?

Re: SponsorBlock – Skip over sponsorship segments on YouTube

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Post by seniorivn »

stock_toaster wrote: post #67
FreeFull wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are the people who tend to use adblock likely to actually engage with the ads with adblock off?

Yeah, I always wondered if adblockers actually _improved_ per ad engagement, as users of an adblocker are opting themselves out of advertisement (thereby removing themselves from "inventory"), and seem like they would be less likely overall to engage with ads, and thus the adblocker usage is reducing the number of non-engaging users. Sure, overall "inventory" would go down, but I would expect for ads that actually ma…

I block ads because I don't have ad blindness, when I watch ads I focus my attention on it like on normal content people who are used to seeing ads don't notice most of ads

Re: SponsorBlock – Skip over sponsorship segments on YouTube

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Post by ThatPlayer »

heavyset_go wrote: post #97
ThatPlayer wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally I do pay for YouTube Premium, so videos I watch do make money (and do not have ads for me). As for in-video sponsor segments, I doubt the actual sponsors get any analytics about when they're skipped or not.

> (and do not have ads for me) The sponsor segments are ads. You're getting doubled-dipped.

And that's why I've been using this sponsor block plugin.

Re: SponsorBlock – Skip over sponsorship segments on YouTube

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Post by ThatPlayer »

Nextgrid wrote: post #39
exikyut wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Go on, ping the developer and let them know. Earlier is better to expand something like this to $everything, like what happened to youtube-dl, precisely because the codebase is less mature and it's easier to rip things to bits earlier than later.

Integrating this into youtube-dl would be great.

Youtube-dlp, a fork of youtube-dl has intergrations to use this database already.

https://github.com/yt-dlp/SponSkrub

Re: SponsorBlock – Skip over sponsorship segments on YouTube

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Post by ajayyy »

Mindwipe wrote: post #25
vages wrote: post #9

I get the technical justification for doing this: You own your player, so you should be able to control it in whatever way you want. But as consumers, how do we expect the uploader to get paid for their work if we use both Adblock and Sponsor-skip (for the lack of a better word)? Pay to watch is, of course, an option, but that leads to discrimination based on income – unequally distributed between parts of the world…

Ultimately there's only one inevitable consequence of this - YouTube will move to using Widevine on all YouTube streams to stop it happening.

SponsorBlock would work fine with Widevine. In fact, I am planning on expanding it to some other sites that have DRM.

Re: SponsorBlock – Skip over sponsorship segments on YouTube

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Post by ajayyy »

antiterra wrote: post #59

I’d suggest paying for things like https://watchnebula.com/ or a creator’s ad-free patreon version of videos is maybe a better path than trying to game the ad system? Or at least in conjunction with it.

If Nebula existed before I created SponsorBlock, there is a high chance that I would have never created it. Though, I am happy that I ended up making it though, as there are other annoyances to skip like "interaction reminders" and intros.

I think paying for sponsor-free videos is the best way out.

Re: SponsorBlock – Skip over sponsorship segments on YouTube

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Post by ajayyy »

londons_explore wrote: post #4

With a million labelled examples, it ought to be possible to use machine learning to detect sponsorships. A simple version using the auto-generated captions should be pretty straightforward - I'm sure a machine learning model can figure out how to detect "This video is supported by..."

Check out https://ai.neuralblock.app/

All the data is public, so anyone can try!

I still think this will remain human-made for the foreseeable future, as an AI will probably never be able to make the millisecond-precise segments that it currenty has

Re: SponsorBlock – Skip over sponsorship segments on YouTube

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Post by ajayyy »

spockz wrote: post #66
ThatPlayer wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally I do pay for YouTube Premium, so videos I watch do make money (and do not have ads for me). As for in-video sponsor segments, I doubt the actual sponsors get any analytics about when they're skipped or not.

Does YouTube share a part of your premium/fee to the creators based on what you watched? That is actually pretty neat.

Creators are paid "a majority" of revenue from YouTube premium based on watch time.

Re: SponsorBlock – Skip over sponsorship segments on YouTube

#110

Post by plushpuffin »

colejohnson66 wrote: post #87
anticristi wrote: post #83

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How much does Nebula cost? I got to the "enter your card to start your free trial" step, and I still have no clue how much they charge.

On the linked page, under the "start free trial" button, there's this: > 7-day free trial > then $5 per month or $50 per year

You can get a much better deal than that. Sign up for Curiosity Stream using a promoted bundle link and you get Nebula free with it. It's only $12/year this way.

Here's one from the LegalEagle guy: https://curiositystream.com/legaleagle/

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