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Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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I think yesterday’s iMac shows that they haven’t given up on thinness.

Thinness at the expense of all else is what I meant. I don’t see where they compromised to get that thin. However compared to MacBooks with the butterfly keyboard, Apple introduced more than one laptop that had useability issues due to the drive for shedding weight and centimeters.

> compromised

Power brick is now external.

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> and the stick is obsolescence Does this really apply? My gf and I each earn FANG salaries and could upgrade a,couple of times a year if we were so inclined but haven’t bothered until the M1 arrived. IPhone 6s & 7, watch 0 & 3, 2016 Macbook + 2017 MacBook Air (TBF she has a big 2019 Intel MBP from work though)...upgrading that old gear didn’t seem worth it. Patches and upgrades continued to arrive (except for the wa…

Depends on who you’re asking. My 2012 Thinkpad is on the latest Windows 10. It works very well with its SSD and it is really quiet (new thermal paste). Meanwhile, my 2011 MBA cannot even get GarageBand from the App Store because its OS won’t upgrade. Otherwise it’s fine...

Well sure it depends on who you ask, but though it’s just anecdotal, both you are examples that “obsolescence” may not be that big a driver.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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post #185

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You can use Microsoft Remote Desktop Beta to skip the VM/Intel MBA.

I'd still have to VPN in to it though which blocks my internet except RDP.

Does your VPN have to block all internet access due to security reasons, or it just blocks just because it can?

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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The original iPad was, in terms of compute specifications, a minimum viable product. The M1 Macs are not—they are the combination of a mature platform with a mature silicon chip. Given the sheer volume of M1 sales there’s no chance they’re going to be so prematurely deprecated as the original iPad was. At the very least I’d put money on the M1 not being deprecated before all Intel-powered Macs (present and future) ar…

I think the M1 will easily last for a few years - but we don't know what they have left in stock. Was the original iPad regarded as MVP when it came out?

The original iPad was a first generation product; its status as a minimum viable product was only clear after subsequent product cycles.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Unfortunately, Windows ARM laptops were and are poorly executed. Apple is carrot and stick, where the carrot is performance and the stick is obsolescence. With Windows, there's neither carrot or stick. ARM isn't that much more performant, the battery life isn't that much better, and they're certainly not abandoning Intel. OTOH, Microsoft could invest a huge amount of their money on making ARM attractive, but the Wint…

> and the stick is obsolescence Does this really apply? My gf and I each earn FANG salaries and could upgrade a,couple of times a year if we were so inclined but haven’t bothered until the M1 arrived. IPhone 6s & 7, watch 0 & 3, 2016 Macbook + 2017 MacBook Air (TBF she has a big 2019 Intel MBP from work though)...upgrading that old gear didn’t seem worth it. Patches and upgrades continued to arrive (except for the wa…

I think the "stick" the GP was referring to is applied to developers, not consumers. Developers who don't get on board with Windows ARM get... to save themselves some effort. Developers who don't get on board with M1 will have their apps running slower than their competitors' apps across the entire ecosystem within another year or two, period.

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Thinness at the expense of all else is what I meant. I don’t see where they compromised to get that thin. However compared to MacBooks with the butterfly keyboard, Apple introduced more than one laptop that had useability issues due to the drive for shedding weight and centimeters.

> compromised Power brick is now external.

Good catch

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Because it isn’t a point. What’s locked down about an M1 that isn’t locked down about an intel?

For starters you can buy Intel processor, but you cannot buy M1. You can only get M1 with a laptop or a tablet.

So that would factor into someone buying an Apple Computer all 0% right?

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Duh. This is a classic case of Osbourne Effect. Who's going to buy an Intel Mac when M1 is just as good, and appears to be the direction Apple is headed? The point at while an Intel Mac goes obsolete is likely to be sooner, because at some point (probably soon) you'll encounter some app that won't run on Intel (oops we only tested it on M1), or at best it runs in some kind of emulation mode.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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M1 is amazing and I bought my partner one and she loves it. However, when it came to buying a new engineer on our team a laptop, we had to go with the last 2020 Intel model. We still have some uncertainty over whether or not our development tools/environment will work on M1. Many python packages will take longer to install I imagine (if there are no wheels for the M1 mac, not sure if that's an issue) and I suspect so…

Current lineup has too little RAM for many dev-tasks. Like running multiple docker containers, or developing in a ram-hungry language (java+intellij), or running emulators (mobile dev). If the next MBP16 lineup with M1 (M2?) supports 32+ GBs of RAM other vendors will have to step up their game, though.

I have a M1 Mini with 16GB memory. The machine's SSD is incredibly fast, so it swaps very well.

Whereas my 2019 MBP will suffer incredibly when I start running out of memory (it literally becomes unusable and requires a hard reboot), the M1 will transparently start swapping, and I generally don't even notice.

Just the other day I noticed a python process was running slower than expected, and it was a bug in my Pandas code so I had allocated 85GB of memory. The rest of the system was operating normally - Chrome, VSCode, Music were all fine.

I regularly kick off a data pipeline process with 8x concurrency, even though each process uses between 4-6GB memory. It's probably inefficient in some way, but overall is still much faster than running at 2x concurrency (where everything would fit in memory and it wouldn't need to swap).

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