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Re: SponsorBlock – Skip over sponsorship segments on YouTube

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Post by tittenfick »

csdreamer7 wrote: post #64

Blocking 3rd party network ads do deprive creators of revenue; but using uBlock Origins does have these important benefits: *Protects you from malicious attacks through 3rd party ad networks. *Keeps your browser fast from trackers. *Stops intrusive ads that literally take up 30% of your screen and move the website around making it difficult to read an article. But sponsored segments built into the video itself? It ha…

Sponsor elements are extremely intrusive. They entirely interrupt the video you want to see. Here's my case: I don't care how the people make their money. I just refuse to be served any of that.

Re: SponsorBlock – Skip over sponsorship segments on YouTube

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Post by heavyset_go »

csdreamer7 wrote: post #64

Blocking 3rd party network ads do deprive creators of revenue; but using uBlock Origins does have these important benefits: *Protects you from malicious attacks through 3rd party ad networks. *Keeps your browser fast from trackers. *Stops intrusive ads that literally take up 30% of your screen and move the website around making it difficult to read an article. But sponsored segments built into the video itself? It ha…

That's cool, but content creators don't get to decide what ads I see or don't see, or what ads I mute or fast forward through.

Re: SponsorBlock – Skip over sponsorship segments on YouTube

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Post by creato »

spockz wrote: post #66
ThatPlayer wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally I do pay for YouTube Premium, so videos I watch do make money (and do not have ads for me). As for in-video sponsor segments, I doubt the actual sponsors get any analytics about when they're skipped or not.

Does YouTube share a part of your premium/fee to the creators based on what you watched? That is actually pretty neat.

That is my assumption and it would be shocking if that were not the case. This is the case for ad revenue. Youtube premium replaces ad revenue with a fee.

The interesting question I'd like to know the answer to is if creators get more money per ad impression or per premium subscriber view.

Re: SponsorBlock – Skip over sponsorship segments on YouTube

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Post by heavyset_go »

Jack000 wrote: post #60

- the more people that use adblock/sponsor block, the less effective ads are in general (lower advertiser ROI for each ad) - if ROI for ads drop, ad sellers (eg. youtubers) have to reduce the price charged to advertisers - given that ad budgets are more or less constant (companies will always need to reach customers) there will simply be more ads, since each ad view is now worth less. - if ads become completely ineff…

> - if ads become completely ineffective (eg. reddit) ads will simply become disguised as content to get past people's filter (aka content marketing, submarine articles etc)

There's no "if" here. This type of advertising exists across all platforms and content distribution channels, and has existed for centuries. Whether or not ads are blocked does nothing to stop it.

Re: SponsorBlock – Skip over sponsorship segments on YouTube

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Post by ceres »

Jack000 wrote: post #60

- the more people that use adblock/sponsor block, the less effective ads are in general (lower advertiser ROI for each ad) - if ROI for ads drop, ad sellers (eg. youtubers) have to reduce the price charged to advertisers - given that ad budgets are more or less constant (companies will always need to reach customers) there will simply be more ads, since each ad view is now worth less. - if ads become completely ineff…

What's a submarine article? Can't find the term on google.

Re: SponsorBlock – Skip over sponsorship segments on YouTube

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Post by intergalplan »

antiterra wrote: post #57
cyborgx7 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Advertising is bad and I will oppose it in all its forms. What other system for financing the content does or doesn't exist is irrelevant to the my decision to block as much advertising out of my perception as I can. That said, Patreon seems to be working very well for a lot of people making high quality content.

That reads an awful lot like: “If a content creator’s patronage is not in the form I prefer, I deserve to circumvent that patronage and consume their content anyway. It’s irrelevant to me how & if they are compensated.”

Yes.

I also buy almost all my books used. Sometimes I flip past two-page-spread ads in magazines without looking at them. I use ad-blockers. Back when I watched TV with ads, I'd go take a whizz during ad breaks. I'd fast-forward past trailers in front of VHS movies.

Thug life, then?

Re: SponsorBlock – Skip over sponsorship segments on YouTube

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Post by heavyset_go »

ThatPlayer wrote: post #19
vages wrote: post #9

I get the technical justification for doing this: You own your player, so you should be able to control it in whatever way you want. But as consumers, how do we expect the uploader to get paid for their work if we use both Adblock and Sponsor-skip (for the lack of a better word)? Pay to watch is, of course, an option, but that leads to discrimination based on income – unequally distributed between parts of the world…

Personally I do pay for YouTube Premium, so videos I watch do make money (and do not have ads for me). As for in-video sponsor segments, I doubt the actual sponsors get any analytics about when they're skipped or not.

> (and do not have ads for me)

The sponsor segments are ads. You're getting doubled-dipped.

Re: SponsorBlock – Skip over sponsorship segments on YouTube

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Post by kcb »

rPlayer6554 wrote: post #2

I understand people don't like ads, but at some point doesn't someone have to pay creators for content? This feels just like stealing: I don't know how you can justify it: sponsor spots don't track you and they don't slow down your computer. Yes they are a minor inconvenience but they make the content you watch possible.

Personally I pay for YouTube Premium. So as far as I'm concerned covers my support for the creators of the video I watch. Ad free is the selling point of YouTube Premium after all.

Re: SponsorBlock – Skip over sponsorship segments on YouTube

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Post by have_faith »

ceres wrote: post #95
Jack000 wrote: post #60

- the more people that use adblock/sponsor block, the less effective ads are in general (lower advertiser ROI for each ad) - if ROI for ads drop, ad sellers (eg. youtubers) have to reduce the price charged to advertisers - given that ad budgets are more or less constant (companies will always need to reach customers) there will simply be more ads, since each ad view is now worth less. - if ads become completely ineff…

What's a submarine article? Can't find the term on google.

http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html

Re: SponsorBlock – Skip over sponsorship segments on YouTube

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Post by nerdponx »

paranoidrobot wrote: post #88
toss1 wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Similar, I've actually found that they are producing useful adverts, but I'm in niche high-performance manufacturing, so once it figured that out... Also, I'm happy to give a bit of sponsorship funds to creators I like, as long as I can skip the obnoxious adverts in <5sec (that's more than I need to sort useful from chaff).

This is about skipping sponsorship ads that are part of the content, inserted by the creator. The "This video was sponsored by . For x% off, go to and enter My Channel Name" type things.

Right. And I have no problems with this stuff being stuck into content that I pay $0 for, as long as it's not obnoxious.
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