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Re: SponsorBlock – Skip over sponsorship segments on YouTube

#71

Blocking 3rd party network ads do deprive creators of revenue; but using uBlock Origins does have these important benefits: *Protects you from malicious attacks through 3rd party ad networks. *Keeps your browser fast from trackers. *Stops intrusive ads that literally take up 30% of your screen and move the website around making it difficult to read an article. But sponsored segments built into the video itself? It ha…

> Blocking 3rd party network ads do deprive creators of revenue

That is true and if you are using this extension consider disabling "Sponsor" auto skip.

Re: SponsorBlock – Skip over sponsorship segments on YouTube

#72

Blocking 3rd party network ads do deprive creators of revenue; but using uBlock Origins does have these important benefits: *Protects you from malicious attacks through 3rd party ad networks. *Keeps your browser fast from trackers. *Stops intrusive ads that literally take up 30% of your screen and move the website around making it difficult to read an article. But sponsored segments built into the video itself? It ha…

i agree with your points except:

Stops intrusive ads that literally take up 30% of your screen and move the website around making it difficult to read an article. But sponsored segments built into the video itself? It has none of these issues.

any ad disrupts the viewing experience and makes a video difficult/annoying to view.

a̶l̶s̶o̶,̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶i̶m̶p̶a̶c̶t̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶s̶p̶o̶n̶s̶o̶r̶ ̶s̶e̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶s̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶ ̶o̶n̶l̶y̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶m̶e̶a̶s̶u̶r̶e̶d̶ ̶b̶a̶s̶e̶d̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶t̶o̶t̶a̶l̶ ̶v̶i̶e̶w̶s̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶v̶i̶d̶e̶o̶,̶ ̶r̶e̶g̶a̶r̶d̶l̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶w̶h̶e̶t̶h̶e̶r̶ ̶p̶e̶o̶p̶l̶e̶ ̶a̶c̶t̶u̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ ̶s̶e̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶a̶d̶ ̶o̶r̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶.̶ ̶i̶f̶ ̶i̶ ̶a̶m̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶ ̶i̶n̶t̶e̶r̶e̶s̶t̶e̶d̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶a̶d̶,̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶n̶ ̶b̶l̶o̶c̶k̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶f̶r̶o̶m̶ ̶v̶i̶e̶w̶ ̶m̶a̶k̶e̶s̶ ̶a̶b̶s̶o̶l̶u̶t̶e̶l̶y̶ ̶n̶o̶ ̶d̶i̶f̶f̶e̶r̶e̶n̶c̶e̶ (whereas adblock not loading an ad may reduce the exposure count) (correction: apparently youtube does show engagement over time, so it may be possible to figure out how many people skip ads)

Re: SponsorBlock – Skip over sponsorship segments on YouTube

#73

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Ultimately there's only one inevitable consequence of this - YouTube will move to using Widevine on all YouTube streams to stop it happening.

As far as I understand Widewine "protects" (quotes because piracy websites are proof of the contrary) the video content but wouldn't prevent the player being controlled to skip past ads.

Well technically you could only send the data to be buffered up until the sponsored content and only continue sending the stream after the content was supposed to be finished. Or a bit earlier to ensure smooth playback. If the sponsored content is blocked at least the player will not be able to continue until the time for the content or ad has passed.

I can imagine people on a radio would be fine to have sound muted automatically during ads. But how many will wait for a video to continue after 30s of nothingness?

Re: SponsorBlock – Skip over sponsorship segments on YouTube

#74
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I have the right to watch or not whatever I want , in the same way publishers have the right to add sponsorship content on their videos, same applies to ads , if you don’t want to see ads use an adblocker or skip the sponsorship part with an app like this one. If creators don’t like it , they should find another way of monetizing their work. Shaming people into watching ads is disgusting and wrong.

> I have the right to watch or not whatever I want You don't though. You have the right to not watch whatever you want, but if content is published with the value proposition that the ads and/or sponsorships are the price of admission, then it's hard to argue that you have the right to access the content anyway. Some publishers try to enforce restrictions like that, mostly ineffectively, and it's probably only becaus…

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Re: SponsorBlock – Skip over sponsorship segments on YouTube

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post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have the right to watch or not whatever I want , in the same way publishers have the right to add sponsorship content on their videos, same applies to ads , if you don’t want to see ads use an adblocker or skip the sponsorship part with an app like this one. If creators don’t like it , they should find another way of monetizing their work. Shaming people into watching ads is disgusting and wrong.

> I have the right to watch or not whatever I want You don't though. You have the right to not watch whatever you want, but if content is published with the value proposition that the ads and/or sponsorships are the price of admission, then it's hard to argue that you have the right to access the content anyway. Some publishers try to enforce restrictions like that, mostly ineffectively, and it's probably only becaus…

No. If content is published for 0€, it's free. If you want money, charge for it. That's the only business model that ensures that businesses serve their customers and thus the only legitimate one.

Re: SponsorBlock – Skip over sponsorship segments on YouTube

#76
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I am curious if direct revenue shares are a sustainable model. E.g., I pay some money -- $10/month. I can choose to pay more. A fraction of that is divided evenly amongst all the videos I've watched. Creators get a check at the end of the month. This wouldn't rake in billions of advertiser money. But I think it would sustain a very decent business, and be better for society in general. This does need to be voluntary:…

That is literally how YouTube Premium works today, but people seem to feel entitled to watch without paying any money and blocking the ads.

Of course. I'm entitled to block ads and I'm entitled to watch things that are offered for free without paying. If you want to be paid for something, don't give it away for free.

Re: SponsorBlock – Skip over sponsorship segments on YouTube

#77

I’d suggest paying for things like https://watchnebula.com/ or a creator’s ad-free patreon version of videos is maybe a better path than trying to game the ad system? Or at least in conjunction with it.

Happily paying for Nebula as a creator-owned platform. I don't feel the slightest shred of guilt for cutting Google as a middleman nor for using an ad-block.

Super happy it's a thing and have thoroughly enjoyed some of the Nebula originals.

Re: SponsorBlock – Skip over sponsorship segments on YouTube

#78
post #72

Blocking 3rd party network ads do deprive creators of revenue; but using uBlock Origins does have these important benefits: *Protects you from malicious attacks through 3rd party ad networks. *Keeps your browser fast from trackers. *Stops intrusive ads that literally take up 30% of your screen and move the website around making it difficult to read an article. But sponsored segments built into the video itself? It ha…

i agree with your points except: Stops intrusive ads that literally take up 30% of your screen and move the website around making it difficult to read an article. But sponsored segments built into the video itself? It has none of these issues. any ad disrupts the viewing experience and makes a video difficult/annoying to view. a̶l̶s̶o̶,̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶i̶m̶p̶a̶c̶t̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶s̶p̶o̶n̶s̶o̶r̶ ̶s̶e̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶s̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶ ̶o̶n̶l̶y̶…

> the impact of sponsor sections can only be measured based on the total views of the video

I don't think that's true at all.

1. There are video analytics to measure what parts of the video were watched.

2. Even if you generally dislike ads, there is a chance that you will see an ad you are interested in that you will check out, which will contribute to the ad's effectiveness, and can be measured. If you automatically block ads, the effectiveness becomes 0 in all cases.

Re: SponsorBlock – Skip over sponsorship segments on YouTube

#79
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- the more people that use adblock/sponsor block, the less effective ads are in general (lower advertiser ROI for each ad) - if ROI for ads drop, ad sellers (eg. youtubers) have to reduce the price charged to advertisers - given that ad budgets are more or less constant (companies will always need to reach customers) there will simply be more ads, since each ad view is now worth less. - if ads become completely ineff…

Are the people who tend to use adblock likely to actually engage with the ads with adblock off?

What is your definition of engagement? clicking on it? buying a product after clicking on it? or recognizing the brand when you are buying a product weeks after seeing the ad?

Re: SponsorBlock – Skip over sponsorship segments on YouTube

#80
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I get the technical justification for doing this: You own your player, so you should be able to control it in whatever way you want. But as consumers, how do we expect the uploader to get paid for their work if we use both Adblock and Sponsor-skip (for the lack of a better word)? Pay to watch is, of course, an option, but that leads to discrimination based on income – unequally distributed between parts of the world…

Does Youtube track if I skip the ad segment? Or better: do the uploaders know how many users saw the ad?
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