So, anyone with kids is probably going to have dementia?
Usually parents can't sleep well only for a year at most, even 6 months old children are sleeping whole nights.
Association of sleep duration in middle and old age with incidence of dementia
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Re: Association of sleep duration in middle and old age with incidence of dementia
#22So, anyone with kids is probably going to have dementia?
Usually parents can't sleep well only for a year at most, even 6 months old children are sleeping whole nights.
But it turns out toddlers will get up in the night and ask you to tuck them back in, they will get up because they had a scary dream, because they can't find their stuffed animal, and don't get me started on night terrors.
The point is I don't think this tracks.
I don't think I've had a solid week of uninterrupted sleep since our first came home.
Re: Association of sleep duration in middle and old age with incidence of dementia
#23So, anyone with kids is probably going to have dementia?
Usually parents can't sleep well only for a year at most, even 6 months old children are sleeping whole nights.
Pre-6 months, we’re talking about a zombie lifestyle where there is no “sleeping at night,” just sleeping between feedings.
I acknowledge there are definitely both cultural and hereditary elements to this, but your comment is so starkly different from my experience and the experience of my friends.
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#24nurses and doctors, the 'health' workers, and other erratic schedule-shifting shift workers... RIP
More proximally: the level of care you can receive / number of errors committed is seriously affected by the loss of sleep by your carer.
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#25Unless it's an emergency, I've ALWAYS prioritized sleep. It's just too important for health regardless of these latest findings. I'd call in to work if I didn't get a full nights rest in the past, it's not worth feeling like shit for the rest of the day. The culture of glamorizing working longer and harder till early hours of the mornings on zero sleep, has always been nonsense. Musk is notorious for bragging about t…
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Usually parents can't sleep well only for a year at most, even 6 months old children are sleeping whole nights.
That's just half of the picture. My kids are older but they have a talent to get up at 6 in the morning on weekends. And need to get up at similar times for school during the week.
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#27"However, this study cannot establish cause and effect" is the only part of this article that matters, and it demonstrates the ineptitude of the article writer.
I agree. This sort of article is partly the reason why we so often here something like "science can't make up its mind" or "x is good now but was bad before, and will be bad again soon". Instead of sharing accurate information about the findings of these researchers, news organizations use them to write catchy, clickbait-y articles. Needless to say, researchers are often to blame as well, since they participate in in…
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#28Re: Association of sleep duration in middle and old age with incidence of dementia
#29In contrast, a quasi-causal analysis (via Mendelian randomization) found no causal effect of sleep duration on Alzheimer's risk. > There was little evidence to support associations of increased sleep duration with ... Alzheimer's disease risk [OR = 0.89 (95% CI = 0.67-1.18); P = 0.41]. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31062029/
There are other forms of dementia than Alzheimer's.
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#30My initial response was that the headline writer was sloppy about risk, correlation and causation, but towards the end it notes some studies where one or more nights of poor sleep appeared to cause measurable increases in substances that are present in elevated levels in dementia patients. If those studies did a reasonable job of showing causation, then this could be an extension of that work.