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Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by jermaustin1 »

bayindirh wrote: post #83
dividedbyzero wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder how many of those who got an M1 mac recently are aware of what exactly that means, besides that it's new and fast. I could imagine a large part of those sales to fall into the "I need a new computer, I'll get another Macbook Air" category. Those buyers wouldn't have much reason to care anyway; I guess you'd have to do pretty specialized work to really notice a big difference besides "cool" and "fast".

I'm using an M1 MacBook Air right now. It's more nuanced than speed. That thing's responses are insane. It's an insanely fast computer which wakes up like an iPhone and has an endurance like a vintage, entry level Nokia phone. It's ready to work before I finish opening up the screen and, they forgot to tell the battery that it needs to deplete after some time. It doesn't matter for ordinary people to know all the coo…

In January, I switched completely to Mac from PC, and I did it with an M1 mini. It was time to upgrade my ancient Dell XPS (bought it in 2012 or something), and decided what the heck. I'll give it a go. For only $700, I got probably the best computing experience of my life. Rosetta has been amazing, and a lot of the Mac software I used to use on my top-of-the-line 2019 Intel MBA just fly.

When I first started using it there were some glaring issues that have all disappeared as software has been updated/optimized for the M1 architecture.

Notably back in February I attempted to write a .net core console app, and it would never enter Main() {}. A week later there was an update to .net, and that went away.

I still use my Intel MBA for Parallels. A client of mine is Windows only, and I have to VPN in, then RDP into the development machine, but I'm hoping that Parallels has released the new ARM version officially, it might just work (there were issues regarding connectivity while I was beta testing it).

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by syntaxing »

brink wrote: post #49
dkarp wrote: post #13

M1 is amazing and I bought my partner one and she loves it. However, when it came to buying a new engineer on our team a laptop, we had to go with the last 2020 Intel model. We still have some uncertainty over whether or not our development tools/environment will work on M1. Many python packages will take longer to install I imagine (if there are no wheels for the M1 mac, not sure if that's an issue) and I suspect so…

As an engineer on an M1, I have to say you made the right choice. Half the stuff that I try to work on is just straight up broken, especially Python/AI related tools. I have to switch to my Linux laptop regularly to get anything done. I've wasted days just trying to get certain dev tools working.

Totally agreed and tensorflow is pretty broken (I guess the alpha release tag is fair). But the newest brew released has fixed maybe 90% of the issues. With miniforge + pytorch, you can run most things.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by willtim »

dustinmoris wrote: post #143
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Friend of mine just got a new M1 13-inch MBP. He "likes" it, as opposed to "loves" it; because he doesn't actually care that much (he's not a tech nerd). He likes his iPad a lot more. He would probably feel the same way about a new Dell or Lenovo. It's just not that important to him. Computers are a "necessary evil." He's a musician, and he asked my advice, so he got a Mac. For myself, I am waiting on the M1X/M2, lat…

> He would probably feel the same way about a new Dell or Lenovo. Not sure if this was ever true for someone who used a Mac before. Going to a Dell or Lenovo feels like a huge downgrade. Everything about these laptops feels cheap in comparison to a Mac. They are bigger, thicker, heavier, more plastic, hotter, and less elegant. Also the track pad and other screen on the Mac is so much better. Even if some Windows lapt…

> Everything about these laptops feels cheap in comparison to a Mac. They are bigger, thicker, heavier, more plastic, hotter, and less elegant.

This is completely wrong. For example, a Lenovo X1 Carbon is 2.5 pounds, which is lighter than a MacBook Air at 2.8 pounds. It also offers 32GB of ram, does not have a glued-in battery, does not use glass and the keyboard is much less likely to fail. I am tempted by the M1, but from my experience Apple machines are heavier, fragile, less reliable and less user-serviceable. I also don't understand the aversion to plastics. Aluminium makes MacBooks heavy and can attenuate radio signals.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by runeks »

andrewfromx wrote: post #151

so I have an old MacBook Air at my office and the new M1 Air at home. Last night I was trying to run something from our internal "ruby cli" and that meant the dreaded "bundle install" command. I'll be honest, I was nervous. But I thought back to that line in Godfather "i want you to use all your powers, and all your skills" and I got into a headspace of, I was going to get this to run or die trying. There was issues…

Did you try doing it after doing

  arch -x86_64 /bin/bash

?

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by w0de0 »

jermaustin1 wrote: post #181
bayindirh wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm using an M1 MacBook Air right now. It's more nuanced than speed. That thing's responses are insane. It's an insanely fast computer which wakes up like an iPhone and has an endurance like a vintage, entry level Nokia phone. It's ready to work before I finish opening up the screen and, they forgot to tell the battery that it needs to deplete after some time. It doesn't matter for ordinary people to know all the coo…

In January, I switched completely to Mac from PC, and I did it with an M1 mini. It was time to upgrade my ancient Dell XPS (bought it in 2012 or something), and decided what the heck. I'll give it a go. For only $700, I got probably the best computing experience of my life. Rosetta has been amazing, and a lot of the Mac software I used to use on my top-of-the-line 2019 Intel MBA just fly. When I first started using i…

You can use Microsoft Remote Desktop Beta to skip the VM/Intel MBA.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by jermaustin1 »

w0de0 wrote: post #185
jermaustin1 wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In January, I switched completely to Mac from PC, and I did it with an M1 mini. It was time to upgrade my ancient Dell XPS (bought it in 2012 or something), and decided what the heck. I'll give it a go. For only $700, I got probably the best computing experience of my life. Rosetta has been amazing, and a lot of the Mac software I used to use on my top-of-the-line 2019 Intel MBA just fly. When I first started using i…

You can use Microsoft Remote Desktop Beta to skip the VM/Intel MBA.

I'd still have to VPN in to it though which blocks my internet except RDP.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by joshmlewis »

jader201 wrote: post #172

What’s baffling to me is why the M1 doesn’t natively support multiple monitors. I’m holding off for this reason, and I’ve not been able to find why this is the case, particularly when they seem so much more powerful compared to previous MacBooks.

The M1 Mac Mini supports two monitors, albeit one via HDMI and one via Thunderbolt 3. I agree this is the biggest downside of the M1 MBP that I have.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by joakleaf »

krrrh wrote: post #149
mumblemumble wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ARM Windows laptops have been around for a while, and have not taken off. Some of that could be that these computers don't represent a shift in the wind - x86 remains the primary architecture for Windows. But I think that another big part of it is that every review of a Windows ARM laptop is full of caveats. Some programs will run slower, some programs won't run at all. Knowing which is which requires technical knowl…

The decade of hand wringing about Tim Cook’s deficiencies as CEO compared to Steve Jobs have got to be put to rest by even the biggest skeptics. The timing, execution, and scale of this transition has been so well done.

Jobs was focused on vision and product design. Cook is on operations and execution -- it also shows in his presentations. He follows the relatively safe "Apple-formula" that was put in place in the 2000s. Even the transition to Apple Silicon mirrors that of PowerPC to Intel.

Looking at the products it is hard to see where Cook has made his impression. It feels like it is about refinement and improvements year after year. That isn't a bad thing, because over time those things add up, and Apple is probably a much more well-oil and stable machine behind the facade today than 10 years ago. This is what Cook does (even before he became CEO).

I suspect Cook also knows that this is his strength, and that's where he should focus, but I would like to see something more risky and exciting come out from Apple.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by gumby »

DrBazza wrote: post #102
mumblemumble wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ARM Windows laptops have been around for a while, and have not taken off. Some of that could be that these computers don't represent a shift in the wind - x86 remains the primary architecture for Windows. But I think that another big part of it is that every review of a Windows ARM laptop is full of caveats. Some programs will run slower, some programs won't run at all. Knowing which is which requires technical knowl…

Unfortunately, Windows ARM laptops were and are poorly executed. Apple is carrot and stick, where the carrot is performance and the stick is obsolescence. With Windows, there's neither carrot or stick. ARM isn't that much more performant, the battery life isn't that much better, and they're certainly not abandoning Intel. OTOH, Microsoft could invest a huge amount of their money on making ARM attractive, but the Wint…

> and the stick is obsolescence

Does this really apply?

My gf and I each earn FANG salaries and could upgrade a,couple of times a year if we were so inclined but haven’t bothered until the M1 arrived. IPhone 6s & 7, watch 0 & 3, 2016 Macbook + 2017 MacBook Air (TBF she has a big 2019 Intel MBP from work though)...upgrading that old gear didn’t seem worth it. Patches and upgrades continued to arrive (except for the watch 0).

But we finally upgraded everything and now I’ll upgrade my 2014 ipad that I’m typing on now.

I doubt most people upgrade simply because something new has arrived. Apple doesn’t really drive you to it.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by andrewfromx »

runeks wrote: post #184
andrewfromx wrote: post #151

so I have an old MacBook Air at my office and the new M1 Air at home. Last night I was trying to run something from our internal "ruby cli" and that meant the dreaded "bundle install" command. I'll be honest, I was nervous. But I thought back to that line in Godfather "i want you to use all your powers, and all your skills" and I got into a headspace of, I was going to get this to run or die trying. There was issues…

Did you try doing it after doing arch -x86_64 /bin/bash ?

ah, i remember reading that in some thread and I did try it but probably not correctly. Thanks!
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