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Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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so I have an old MacBook Air at my office and the new M1 Air at home. Last night I was trying to run something from our internal "ruby cli" and that meant the dreaded "bundle install" command. I'll be honest, I was nervous. But I thought back to that line in Godfather "i want you to use all your powers, and all your skills" and I got into a headspace of, I was going to get this to run or die trying. There was issues with many gems h3, openssl, pg, etc. I finally got past them but then running the cli still had openssl issue. I tried to switch to using rvm and then rbenv but both failed with zlib issues. So then I tried VirtualBox but oh yeah, on M1 you need https://mac.getutm.app/ and I got a few linux distros running. But all had different issues with ruby. Long story short, i failed, but omg any complex ruby project with a big gemfile and a new processor == issues. +1 vote for this cli being writen in go or rust and a binary distributed vs. making each consumer of this cli have to "compile" the entire project.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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The current top end M1 Mac Mini tops out at 16GB of unified memory (meaning, it's shared with the GPU). That's OK but I'd prefer 32GB. More annoyingly, the store only stocks (up to) 8GB/512GB.

Part of the appeal of a Macbook Air (which IMHO is the best M1 form factor thus far) is it's not a lot of money (compared to a Macbook Pro 16" anyway) and you can just walk into a store and get another one if you need it.

This applies to accessories too. I know it's easy to get a Macbook charger. But a Dell or Lenovo charger? I'd probably have to wait days for that.

Also the upgrade prices are kinda unjustifiable. Upgrading to 16GB/1TB is $1299. That's a lot for the specs ($200 for each of 16GB->32GB and 512GB->1TB). I'm really hoping the next version gets better.

I do think the M1 has been received incredibly well and Apple has done a great job here it seems.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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ARM Windows laptops have been around for a while, and have not taken off. Some of that could be that these computers don't represent a shift in the wind - x86 remains the primary architecture for Windows. But I think that another big part of it is that every review of a Windows ARM laptop is full of caveats. Some programs will run slower, some programs won't run at all. Knowing which is which requires technical knowl…

The decade of hand wringing about Tim Cook’s deficiencies as CEO compared to Steve Jobs have got to be put to rest by even the biggest skeptics. The timing, execution, and scale of this transition has been so well done.

I agree but the criticism of Tim Cook has never been about execution - he is clearly world class on that - but about quantum leap innovation.

We will need a new product category to put that to rest.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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I wonder how many of those who got an M1 mac recently are aware of what exactly that means, besides that it's new and fast. I could imagine a large part of those sales to fall into the "I need a new computer, I'll get another Macbook Air" category. Those buyers wouldn't have much reason to care anyway; I guess you'd have to do pretty specialized work to really notice a big difference besides "cool" and "fast".

I'm using an M1 MacBook Air right now. It's more nuanced than speed. That thing's responses are insane. It's an insanely fast computer which wakes up like an iPhone and has an endurance like a vintage, entry level Nokia phone. It's ready to work before I finish opening up the screen and, they forgot to tell the battery that it needs to deplete after some time. It doesn't matter for ordinary people to know all the coo…

Could someone comment why the response times are faster? Is it entirely a question of which CPU is used or does it have to do with something else?

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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I wouldn't overlook the impact of battery life. I've never squeezed more than 4 or 5 hours out of my two year old Macbook Pro. A 20 hour battery life in addition to the speed gains make upgrading a tempting prospect.

I spent the whole day on zoom on battery yesterday and still had 35% left to play with.

MBP 2019 with a sub-100 cycles battery burns almost half the battery over one hour Zoom call.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder how many of those who got an M1 mac recently are aware of what exactly that means, besides that it's new and fast. I could imagine a large part of those sales to fall into the "I need a new computer, I'll get another Macbook Air" category. Those buyers wouldn't have much reason to care anyway; I guess you'd have to do pretty specialized work to really notice a big difference besides "cool" and "fast".

I would imagine opinion from early adopters (and tech media in general) have non-trivial influence over even said buyers' decisions.

My parents got an M1 mba a few days ago. When they asked my advice about getting a new laptop they got an earful, and then the favour was returned when I listened to my flabbergasted dad explain to me how his bank website now renders instantly compared to 15 seconds on his old mba.

It’s hard to quantify what portion of the so called tech-illiterate have a tech literate person in their lives who they go to for purchasing advice, but anecdotally I must provide decisive “wait until September” or “nows a good time to buy and here’s why!” advice to at least a dozen or relatives and friends.

It’s also why the butterfly keyboards or the mdns debacle can end up being a drag on sales. I’m very bullish on Mac market share in the next couple of years due to pent up demand from family members being advised to hold on to older machines.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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I see a myriad of comments that boil down to “duh”, but I think these comments are missing the point. Consider an alternate possibility: “sales of Apple’s new ARM macs outpaced by older models”. Had Apple not knocked M1 out of the park, this was a real possibility. Is it surprising that a well executed architecture change is now selling well? Not really. But the more interesting point is that the rest of the market a…

> This would be a very different headline if devs were struggling to port their software, or if Rosetta 2 didn’t live up to its promise.

Yeah, imagine if Surface Pro X outsold Intel-based ones.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

#158
I got Solidworks (CAD program) running on a Windows ARM VM with 64bit X86 emulation on my M1 Macbook Pro and it's still as fast as my dedicated Windows laptop.

Some of that speaks to Solidworks performance in general, but I don't know how to make sense of this other than the virtualization on M1 Macs being so good it feels like magic. I don't know how I could recommend any other laptop in good conscious (Price to Performance). Happy to be kindly corrected in comments :)

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ARM Windows laptops have been around for a while, and have not taken off. Some of that could be that these computers don't represent a shift in the wind - x86 remains the primary architecture for Windows. But I think that another big part of it is that every review of a Windows ARM laptop is full of caveats. Some programs will run slower, some programs won't run at all. Knowing which is which requires technical knowl…

The decade of hand wringing about Tim Cook’s deficiencies as CEO compared to Steve Jobs have got to be put to rest by even the biggest skeptics. The timing, execution, and scale of this transition has been so well done.

I'd argue that the fundamental worry of the skeptics is correct. Apple hasn't been innovative in the same way. Apple's not brought out any products that created or disrupted an entire market niche since Cook took over, and it's arguably taken fewer risks. Instead, Apple's big wins over the past decade have been things like this: Really impressive operational successes.

Personally, I'm OK with that. But I've never really stayed abreast of the latest trends, anyway. I can also see where people who enjoyed the excitement of those famous "one more thing" moments might feel like some of the magic has been lost.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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The AMD CPU wattage != Apple’s SOC including graphics card, large parts of the motherboard and memory. If you’re right where can I buy an AMD laptop with 20h battery life?

My M1 MBA lasts around 6 hours if I do a lot of Google Meet calls.

Yes I've noticed something about Javascript and video seems to consume huge amounts of battery life. What do we think the battery life of an AMD 5800U laptop would be at Google Meet if you could buy one of course...
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