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Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by Nursie »

dkarp wrote: post #13

M1 is amazing and I bought my partner one and she loves it. However, when it came to buying a new engineer on our team a laptop, we had to go with the last 2020 Intel model. We still have some uncertainty over whether or not our development tools/environment will work on M1. Many python packages will take longer to install I imagine (if there are no wheels for the M1 mac, not sure if that's an issue) and I suspect so…

Not python, but I have had hiccups with both Go and Java when targetting x86 linux docker images. The Go stuff would make qemu choke when building multiple go binaries in parallel, and the java testcontainers I use had some sort of an issue.

In general though, I love my M1 air, but I am sticking to my workstation (5950x, 64GB, debian) for dev work for now.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by brk »

dkarp wrote: post #13

M1 is amazing and I bought my partner one and she loves it. However, when it came to buying a new engineer on our team a laptop, we had to go with the last 2020 Intel model. We still have some uncertainty over whether or not our development tools/environment will work on M1. Many python packages will take longer to install I imagine (if there are no wheels for the M1 mac, not sure if that's an issue) and I suspect so…

Roughly the same scenario. Was buying new laptops (3) for me and a new team. We looked into M1, but need to do some things like run Parallels/Windows, and underlying software, that we didn't have enough confidence yet would work as needed on the M1. I figure we'll wait a year or so for the M1 ecosystem to get a little better understood and then re-evaluate.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by ianai »

ghaff wrote: post #30
haswell wrote: post #14

I see a myriad of comments that boil down to “duh”, but I think these comments are missing the point. Consider an alternate possibility: “sales of Apple’s new ARM macs outpaced by older models”. Had Apple not knocked M1 out of the park, this was a real possibility. Is it surprising that a well executed architecture change is now selling well? Not really. But the more interesting point is that the rest of the market a…

It's also worth observing that a lot of IT departments aren't necessarily rushing into the M1, especially to the degree that there isn't a full range of laptops with the new architecture yet.

I think such departments were never a target for this iteration of hardware. That’ll be whenever a Mac Pro model comes out or similar.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by geerlingguy »

oblio wrote: post #25
lebrad wrote: post #12

It's probably also selling more than the 68k and PowerPC Macs combined

Also, Mac OS X sales greater than sales of Mac OS 9 :-p

That was actually not the case for a while... OS X was originally a LOT slower than OS 9, was missing basic features (at the time) like a DVD player, etc. 10.1 fixed some issues, but it wasn't until 10.3 or 10.4 until OS X really got momentum and more apps were available outside the 'Classic' environment.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by onethought »

userbinator wrote: post #44

Cheaper, faster, more locked-down and proprietary. Unfortunately most people don't seem to care about the last point.

Because it isn’t a point. What’s locked down about an M1 that isn’t locked down about an intel?

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by ghaff »

imwillofficial wrote: post #48
fallingknife wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't speak to the quality of the M1 since I haven't used one yet, but I don't think the sales numbers mean that much. Basically just new shiny model outsells old standard model. Just look at the website. What would you rather buy, a standard model, or the one "supercharged by the Apple M1 chip?"

The low end new shiny model of just 2 variants are out selling all of the older and more expensive models combined. That’s big.

OTOH, people who might have otherwise upgraded to one of those older and more expensive models are holding off on purchasing until new higher-end models are available.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by smilekzs »

dividedbyzero wrote: post #45
haswell wrote: post #14

I see a myriad of comments that boil down to “duh”, but I think these comments are missing the point. Consider an alternate possibility: “sales of Apple’s new ARM macs outpaced by older models”. Had Apple not knocked M1 out of the park, this was a real possibility. Is it surprising that a well executed architecture change is now selling well? Not really. But the more interesting point is that the rest of the market a…

I wonder how many of those who got an M1 mac recently are aware of what exactly that means, besides that it's new and fast. I could imagine a large part of those sales to fall into the "I need a new computer, I'll get another Macbook Air" category. Those buyers wouldn't have much reason to care anyway; I guess you'd have to do pretty specialized work to really notice a big difference besides "cool" and "fast".

I would imagine opinion from early adopters (and tech media in general) have non-trivial influence over even said buyers' decisions.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by geerlingguy »

bajsejohannes wrote: post #36
sneak wrote: post #7

The $999 Macbook Air has long been Apple's best selling computer by a pretty wide margin. The Air being M1 now (and retina, and still $999!) has probably accomplished most of this.

The fact that it has proper function-keys instead of a touch bar also makes it an easy choice. At least for people like myself :)

More pro than 'Pro'.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by kossTKR »

deergomoo wrote: post #41

The interesting thing is that they've only moved their consumer models over—presumably we can expect an even more impressive chip later in the year. (I know the low-end MacBook Pro has it, but that model has never really been a "pro" machine in the traditional sense, it's always had a low power CPU and RAM constraints.) And yet I know tons of developers, myself included, that have made the jump. I think that's indica…

Yeah, i'm very close to just buying an M1 because it's just so good, but think i'm gonna wait a few months because i like having one single primary computer and bigger screen.

But damn it's already so tempting. Really hope we'll see updates in September.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by ghaff »

ianai wrote: post #53
ghaff wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's also worth observing that a lot of IT departments aren't necessarily rushing into the M1, especially to the degree that there isn't a full range of laptops with the new architecture yet.

I think such departments were never a target for this iteration of hardware. That’ll be whenever a Mac Pro model comes out or similar.

IT departments do often offer a small/light and a non-travel-optimized model but I imagine many companies are waiting until they can have a common architecture on new systems and any software teething pains are worked out (which seems to be happening but probably not quite there yet).
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