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Mastodon Renaming “Toots” to “Posts”

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Re: Mastodon Renaming “Toots” to “Posts”

#101

How sad to see this piece of culture fading (or maybe it's not?). Luckily the Mastodon code base is merely a recommendation and lots of instances use custom names. I can see many sticking with toots.

cybre.space uses "ping" to fit the retro hacker theme

Re: Mastodon Renaming “Toots” to “Posts”

#102
post #36

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As a very young child & native American English speaker, I was told the rhyme, Beans, beans, the magical fruit, the more you eat, the more you toot. That cemented the association with farts, but 'toot' as in 'toot your own horn' (idiom for self-promotion), or even just literally tooting a horn, are also strong associations. So it's not exclusively, or primarily, a word for farts to my ears – but that's one of the top…

I'm pretty sure that's supposed to be musical fruit . That's why they make you toot.

As a Canadian "musical fruit" still makes you fart. It is some nice potty humour.

Re: Mastodon Renaming “Toots” to “Posts”

#104
post #7

I approve. No one asked me, but if they had, I'd have opined that the pre-cuting of your nomenclature is usually the result of too much time spent thinking about branding and not enough time building features. Note that "tweet" was spawned organically by the community, and Twitter did not adopt the word formally for a couple years after it was in popular use.

> Note that "tweet" was spawned organically by the community It took the community to tell Twitter the obvious: > twitter v. (of a bird) give a call consisting of repeated light tremulous sounds. > tweet n. a chirping note. Seems that a 3rd party application popularised the term, avoiding yet another faux-pas: > One Twitter developer, Blaine Cook, had been testing the beta releases of Twitterrific. Early that month,…

> It took the community to tell Twitter the obvious:

This made me laugh, because it's basically the Twitter Story.

In fairness, with such an enormous community and such a tiny (exposed) application surface, this is probably a natural law -- akin to the creative games kids will invent with rocks and sticks. :)

Re: Mastodon Renaming “Toots” to “Posts”

#105
post #59

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I actually just finished twatting about it. Talk about naming things in a cringey - these folks should think through all the verb tenses first.

The past form would be tweeted, no?

For a while I believe that there was a push by twitter for it to be "twittered" but it's a made up word so we can craft our own tenses. To most english speakers tweet having a past tense of twat is perfectly reasonable (unless you're british but enjoy how quickly you speeded over this comment). Companies use BS word creation as a way to get around trademark collision and validity concerns but I strongly dislike the habit of making new words up so you can get an easy registration. I think it's perfectly legitimate to counter their BS with our own BS shaming them over their easy out and I'd encourage other folks to follow in suit. So, until the end of time, the name of that console is the X-Bone.

When you're naming a thing you should be careful and deliberate in your process - generally coincidences will work against you, though you might get lucky and pull a Kit-Kat[1].

1. https://thediplomat.com/2019/08/the-kit-kat-in-japan-a-trans...

Re: Mastodon Renaming “Toots” to “Posts”

#106

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I'm having trouble deciding if you are tugging everyone's leg or being straight up serious or tugging everyone's leg by being straight up serious. Sometimes that last is funnier, though usually only to the person doing it.

Well, the entire discussion deriving from the proposed code change is ultimately debating the relative merits of a fart joke, so any contribution is bound to be a gas.

... and by virtue of the contribution being a gas, it expands to fill the entire containing volume - in this case, the discussion we’re having.

That makes total sense.

Re: Mastodon Renaming “Toots” to “Posts”

#107
post #94

I know little about Mastodon, but it seems like somebody went out of their way to make the cringiest sounding product possible. “Hey man, I just tooted on mastodon!” It really sounds like parody. I hope I am just missing the point. You might say this is a superficial criticism, but I think naming is important when it comes to social appeal. At least, it becomes important when the naming has gone so horribly wrong. If…

DuckDuckGo is a big one in the stupid naming area. They own duck.com, they suggest using "Duck It" (which kinda works IMO) and they still choose to use the ridiculous "duckduckgo" branding. It's stupid but it's honestly the main reason I'm not using it. That and their crappy duck logo. I wish they would be wise and rebrand too.

Apparently Google owned Duck.com ever since it acquired Duck Corp. in 2010[1], and only 2-ish years ago transferred the domain to DuckDuckGo.

However, Duck is rather generic-sounding and will require $$$ in ad-spend to get name recall. Even though it's awkward, DuckDuckGo is certainly memorable, sometimes that works in a product's favour.

[1] https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/12/18137369/duckduckgo-duck...

Re: Mastodon Renaming “Toots” to “Posts”

#108
post #61

I know little about Mastodon, but it seems like somebody went out of their way to make the cringiest sounding product possible. “Hey man, I just tooted on mastodon!” It really sounds like parody. I hope I am just missing the point. You might say this is a superficial criticism, but I think naming is important when it comes to social appeal. At least, it becomes important when the naming has gone so horribly wrong. If…

Homebrew is awesome and I love beer but the names and metaphors really do not deliver value. I much prefer descriptive names to cute ones.

I have this exact same feeling with some Java programmers' fascination with coffee terminology, especially Beans. Maybe because I grind my own beans at home, it always triggers me in some sort of Pavlovian way.

Re: Mastodon Renaming “Toots” to “Posts”

#109
post #17

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That doesn't mean the PR is guaranteed to be merged, let alone already merged, as the submission title implies.

it doesn't, I added the comment for context in case other readers are not aware (@ "someone")

update: merged

Re: Mastodon Renaming “Toots” to “Posts”

#110
post #61

I know little about Mastodon, but it seems like somebody went out of their way to make the cringiest sounding product possible. “Hey man, I just tooted on mastodon!” It really sounds like parody. I hope I am just missing the point. You might say this is a superficial criticism, but I think naming is important when it comes to social appeal. At least, it becomes important when the naming has gone so horribly wrong. If…

Homebrew is awesome and I love beer but the names and metaphors really do not deliver value. I much prefer descriptive names to cute ones.

I'll take a whimsical metaphorical name over a name that is utterly generic and un-googleable any day though.

Looking at you, Go...

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