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Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by whizzter »

haswell wrote: post #14

I see a myriad of comments that boil down to “duh”, but I think these comments are missing the point. Consider an alternate possibility: “sales of Apple’s new ARM macs outpaced by older models”. Had Apple not knocked M1 out of the park, this was a real possibility. Is it surprising that a well executed architecture change is now selling well? Not really. But the more interesting point is that the rest of the market a…

Even w/o the perf of the M1 I think sales had been overwhelming, part because yes it's the "entry level" models but mainly because nobody wants to be left with a machine that won't get supported by the OS (even if I think low-mem M1 machines will be phased out of OS updates at some point)

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by oblio »

haswell wrote: post #14

I see a myriad of comments that boil down to “duh”, but I think these comments are missing the point. Consider an alternate possibility: “sales of Apple’s new ARM macs outpaced by older models”. Had Apple not knocked M1 out of the park, this was a real possibility. Is it surprising that a well executed architecture change is now selling well? Not really. But the more interesting point is that the rest of the market a…

The thing is, even if M1 would have been middling, Apple would have still migrated everyone forcefully :-)

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by machineko »

dkarp wrote: post #13

M1 is amazing and I bought my partner one and she loves it. However, when it came to buying a new engineer on our team a laptop, we had to go with the last 2020 Intel model. We still have some uncertainty over whether or not our development tools/environment will work on M1. Many python packages will take longer to install I imagine (if there are no wheels for the M1 mac, not sure if that's an issue) and I suspect so…

I'm working a lot on M1 and few months ago it was unusable for Deep Learning stuff but now its mediocre not good but also not terrible. (even coreml stuff wasn't working properly on M1 2 months ago)

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by xacky »

Now that Parallels, Crossover and UTM have solved the boot camp issue there is little reason to let x86 compatibility get in the way. Most of the major Mac apps have released Universal Binaries as well. It's not even been six months yet and most Macs have already transitioned. Now all we need is the Mac Pro and Macbook Pro 16" to switch.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by okigan »

someperson wrote: post #2

Great marketing. I wonder the sales difference if they were also selling Macs with current generation AMD Ryzen chips manufactured on a modern TSMC node.

That seems to miss the point that they’ll have one chip family across all their devices - the cost savings to APPL will be tremendous compared to tailoring to intel/amd/iPhone_chip/ipad_chip.

So we can bemoan a missing cpu option but profitwise (ie price*volume-costs) it makes more sense.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by [deleted] »

emsy wrote: post #20

I will miss the Intel Macbooks. I use a 2013 Macbook with Bootcamp for freelance work. It's close to perfect. I don't want to maintain 2 laptops for Mac/Windows work. If I could work on an ipad I could imagine having an ipad and a Windows machine but currently my next setup will be worse due to "progress". Am I using it wrong?

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Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by andy_ppp »

yoz-y wrote: post #11
andy_ppp wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they are so good at building CPUs that fit their designs why do they need to rely on AMD keeping pace with them? I bet you Apple increase performance 20%+ per year for a decade while at some point AMD will slow down their improvements. Never mind the whole issue with heat and battery life where AMD is miles behind.

> Never mind the whole issue with heat and battery life where AMD is miles behind. That's just false. AMDs newer U models have TDP and performance per watt at the same level as the M1. Apple has other advantages with the M1 (like running iOS programs, more optimised for their software and so on), so they still benefit from having their own chips. M1 is great, but it's not magic.

The AMD CPU wattage != Apple’s SOC including graphics card, large parts of the motherboard and memory. If you’re right where can I buy an AMD laptop with 20h battery life?

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by ghaff »

haswell wrote: post #14

I see a myriad of comments that boil down to “duh”, but I think these comments are missing the point. Consider an alternate possibility: “sales of Apple’s new ARM macs outpaced by older models”. Had Apple not knocked M1 out of the park, this was a real possibility. Is it surprising that a well executed architecture change is now selling well? Not really. But the more interesting point is that the rest of the market a…

It's also worth observing that a lot of IT departments aren't necessarily rushing into the M1, especially to the degree that there isn't a full range of laptops with the new architecture yet.
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