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Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki Gets 'Freedom Expression' Award Sponsored by YouTube

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Post by pnt12 »

staticelf wrote: post #203
Mizza wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.freedomforum.org/about/council-of-advisors/ CNN, Fox News, Charles Koch Institute, Comcast, a bunch of VC firms, and Susan Wojcicki's _own mother_. A vulgar display of power.

Wow that is insane. They don't give a single f.

It seems that companies do not care about hiding their rotten values anymore. Law enforcement does not punish them and consumers keep buying, why care?

In the case this goes viral, they will post a copy from some previous non-apology, take a hit for a couple of weeks and do it all over again.

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Post by argvargc »

readams wrote: post #111

I think people here are fundamentally misunderstanding what happened here. There is a nonprofit, the "Freedom Forum Institute" that awarded this award. Only the award ceremony was sponsored by YouTube. It's common practice for nonprofits to use awards like this as an opportunity to ask for donations, and for the company associated with that person to offer to sponsor the awards ceremony. I don't see anything to indic…

Actually, most fundamentally understand what's happened. We've all seen these things before; the embarrassing identifying characteristics of unchecked power.

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Post by argvargc »

ainar-g wrote: post #12

Here[1] is the video. At the time of me writing this comment, the ratio is 53 likes to 15,486 dislikes. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDcvPf78g1k

Someone should track the dislikes on this over time, eg: https://81m.org

(Note clicking a vid shows more detail, eg: https://81m.org/videos/juH2Mfre_oM/ )

Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki Gets 'Freedom Expression' Award Sponsored by YouTube

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Post by ziml77 »

himinlomax wrote: post #47
ainar-g wrote: post #12

Here[1] is the video. At the time of me writing this comment, the ratio is 53 likes to 15,486 dislikes. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDcvPf78g1k

Don't worry, Youtube is set to remove the dislike buttons.

Actually they were testing out hiding the number of dislikes. Not quite the same as removing the dislike button. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if they did end up choosing to completely remove the button.

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Post by geoduck14 »

Grustaf wrote: post #53
jollybean wrote: post #22

Let this be a lesson to all: intelligence does not in any way correlate with self awareness. It's likely that 'smart' people are just as likely to be unaware of their own follies or inabilities, I would argue, maybe more so as a lot of smart people tend to be 'inwardly focused' and less concerned about their direct environment. This kind of thing happens all the time among Exec. level, but normally we'd expect it fro…

I think it says much more about how they see the consumers. They're probably counting on 99% of people not noticing the absurdity of it, or the irony in boasting about your industrial scale censorship when accepting your free speech award.

To be fair, I wouldn't have noticed the award if it wasn't for HN

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Post by SuoDuanDao »

jollybean wrote: post #22

Let this be a lesson to all: intelligence does not in any way correlate with self awareness. It's likely that 'smart' people are just as likely to be unaware of their own follies or inabilities, I would argue, maybe more so as a lot of smart people tend to be 'inwardly focused' and less concerned about their direct environment. This kind of thing happens all the time among Exec. level, but normally we'd expect it fro…

As I like to summarise it, 'the smarter someone is, the dumber beliefs they can rationalise'.

Combine that observation with the Flynn effect and it explains why common sense is never as common as it used to be... Maybe Google's best bet at this point is to hire people with a wide diversity of IQ scores.

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Post by SuoDuanDao »

willis936 wrote: post #141
ttt0 wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Why you fool, it's the educated reader who CAN be gulled. All our difficulty comes with the others. When did you meet a workman who believes the papers? He takes it for granted that they're all propaganda and skips the leading articles. He buys his paper for the football results and the little paragraphs about girls falling out of windows and corpses found in Mayfair flats. He is our problem. We have to recondition…

A fun hypothetical, but how smart do you think the average Q anon believer is? Reality isn’t as nice on the ears as the fantasy of a poet is.

Today, or when Q first showed up? I happened to have a front row seat to the first few Q threads and it began as a highly intellectual set of puzzles with the community providing a lot of the weird coincidences that make for an interesting conspiracy theory. One might say that the average Q believer in the first few months was a poet. Didn't remain that way of course.

Edit: And come to think of it, that kind of intellectual soft flex is actually exactly the kind of thing the Lewis quote refers to, just presented in a different venue. It's my understanding Daesh recruitment propaganda has a similar tone.

Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki Gets 'Freedom Expression' Award Sponsored by YouTube

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Post by anoncake »

ttt0 wrote: post #220
anoncake wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Respect for other's privacy has never been considered ignorance, even if it may match a dictionary definition.

I'm a fairly open minded person and I can change my mind if something makes sense to me. I assumed that maybe here I will find someone who can explain this thing to me, but so far I'm not impressed. The mean of perpetuating our species seems to be a too important detail to accept "it's none of your business" as an answer. I also think that if it's taught to children then it is a public matter.

Other people's bodies are not your means of anything.

> I'm a fairly open minded person

Open minded people don't need to say that.

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Post by anoncake »

ttt0 wrote: post #219
anoncake wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Your conclusion is nonsense, the premise is not. My conclusion is derived from the premise. Since it's nonsense so is the premise. > A broken computer is still in essence a computer, even if it can't actually do any computing as a result. An infertile woman is broken then? > It's some kind of genetic disorder, an anomaly. With your standard you can't describe anything, as almost nothing is true 100% of the time. Of…

> An infertile woman is broken then? I don't know if I would necessarily use this particular word as it's mostly associated with lifeless objects, but in a sense - yes. Similarly to how having a disability or being an amputee is, for the lack of a better term, being "broken", as your body fails to function is some manner. Life is more nuanced and it's not all about that of course, but you get the idea. > Of course yo…

> Even still, there is always a chance that the computer will randomly malfunction and do something unexpected at any time. Unlikely, but possible. So you can never say for sure that an operation of 2 + 2 will result in 4.

Your point?

> If it's accurate enough then it's useful for making predictions. You know, science and stuff.

If there is a counterexample to a scientific hypothesis, it's considered falsified. Not "useful for making predictions", but simply wrong.

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Post by pupdogg »

cbozeman wrote: post #228
perl4ever wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I saw an article recently where some school was being renamed for the sort of reasons people call "cancel culture" these days and they explicitly rejected renaming it after Obama, because he was an "oppressor" due to the (allegedly very vigorous) deportation of undocumented immigrants during his terms. For me , he's the greatest President because of the ACA.

> For me, he's the greatest President because of the ACA. This is the very definition of uncritical, subjective thinking. :\

Precisely this! Not having any insurance in my late 20s, I voted for him thinking ACA was for the good of people. Then I got married, had 2 kids, business flourished, and purchased a house only to realize that ACA accounts for half of my mortgage. Currently paying $1k per month with all healthy members and without any pre-existing conditions!
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