Am I the only person thinking of the malicious use cases of tagging things that don’t belong to you?
Apple Introduces AirTag
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Reminded me of the Hello Tomorrow commercial by Adidas / Spike Jonze / Karen O: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbBNScrYN10
speaking of Spike Jonze, Apple, and commercials, it also kinda reminded me of the (brilliant) Spike Jonze-Anderson.Paak-FKA Twigs homepod commercial https://youtu.be/k70OczvX45k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go6Hpal8fUA
Incredible that the set ran on hydraulics and actually stretched.
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Over ears are pretty much a non-starter for a lot of people who travel.
How come? I've been traveling extensively with over-ears, what makes them a non-starter?
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I still think Tile lost out on a gigantic market by not making it easier for hardware manufacturers to integrate into their ecosystem. They should have been practically begging oems to embed it.
Yes, and they refuse (apparently) to join Apple's Find My, and instead want users to install their Tile app (and their tags are then only findable by users that have the Tile app installed). They want to own the entire relationship, but I think here they'll lose out.
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#785I thought one of the big use cases for this was to track stolen items, like a backpack or maybe even a bicycle. But the "anti-stalking" feature will notify someone if an AirTag they don't own appears to be traveling with them. Does this render it useless for anti-theft, then? Since it will just notify a thief that the bike they just stole is being tracked, and they can look for the AirTag and throw it in the nearest…
I wonder how this works in practice? My main use for an AirTag would be to put on my cat’s collar. But if it starts beeping randomly that’s going to be a problem.
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Tile didn't start with replaceable batteries--they still don't use them in all their products. I don't know how AirTags will be in practice, but user-replaceable batteries haven't been great. I don't know if it's a technical restriction or not, but "low-battery" seems to be a time based warning and not based on battery charge. So I either get an alert when 1 year has passed on all of my devices at the same time, or t…
> I don't know if it's a technical restriction or not More likely because CR batteries don't drop voltage significantly as it discharges. And at full discharge it suddenly drops dead. Which is why it's harder to measure "remaining charge", as that's generally calculated on battery voltage.
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So, this prevents some legitimate use cases, for example putting a tag in a suitcase for the flight, because it'll start beeping at some point? A shame. It would've been cool standing at that conveyor belt at the airport and rather than staring at the luggage as it comes, being able to sense one's own stuff. Also, seems that it's not suitable for putting on a cat or dog's collar for the same reason.
> standing at that conveyor belt at the airport you're not supposed to put batteries in your luggage
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you forgot something, low-cost, low-power, low-accuracy battery monitoring is like pretty much the most solved problem ever. low-cost & low-power & high accuracy, not so much
What do you mean? It's literally just a 2-axis lookup table with voltage on one axis and SOC on the other.
My battery is 80% charged, and then I go outside where it is 10 degC colder. Suddenly my battery voltage drops by 200mV and my battery looks 20% charged
My battery is 80% charged and then I start playing a video. The increased load drops the battery voltage and suddenly my battery looks 20% charged.
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#789> AirTag is designed for over a year’s worth of battery life with everyday use. The CR2032 battery is user-replaceable and widely available. Replacement batteries are sold separately. That's the piece of information I wanted to know first. Devices like this can be built, but those can't run on batteries for a reasonable time frame. Apple made it practical.
Why can't they just have it recharge with a tiny solar cell or kinetic charging? Any object moved around by normal use would generate more than enough energy to charge a CR2032's worth in an entire year. That would make it truly practical by never needing a battery change. Apple didn't make anything significantly better than the Tile IMO, which also needs batteries to be replaced every year.
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And kids will continue to die from them, if you want to be that absolute about the topic.
Yes and items that are choking hazards for children are taken off the shelves. Poisonous chemicals must by law be clearly labeled and have child safety caps on them. Button batteries are not regulated, are found in more and more toys and devices that don't have necessary safety measures, have no warnings, are easily swallowed, the body gives no immediate reaction unlike chocking, is misdiagnosed because of this, and…