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Re: Belarusian regime’s thugs shut down Imaguru, the country’s key startup hub

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

Jkae80 wrote: post #23
iyn wrote: post #15

I've been following the situation in Belarus since last August and it's really terrible. I admire how so many brave people look death in the eye and still fight for freedom. I have friends there and this allowed me to understand that there's so much potential in Belarus -- there are so many talented, intelligent people getting by in this adversarial environment. So sad to see how Lukashenko's kleptocracy regime waste…

Yeah? Check out the involvement of NGO directly financed by the West. What ever happened in Ukraine's coup orchestrated by the West is not going to happen in Belarus. And that is a hard pill to swallow for you people.

Lets imagine the coup is orchestrated by the West.

The guy currently in charge is corrupt and a murderer. Is living in Belarus going to get worse without him?

Re: Belarusian regime’s thugs shut down Imaguru, the country’s key startup hub

#32

Post by ramtatatam »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #31
Jkae80 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah? Check out the involvement of NGO directly financed by the West. What ever happened in Ukraine's coup orchestrated by the West is not going to happen in Belarus. And that is a hard pill to swallow for you people.

Lets imagine the coup is orchestrated by the West. The guy currently in charge is corrupt and a murderer. Is living in Belarus going to get worse without him?

It might get worst if country gets into a war situation like in Ukraine..

Re: Belarusian regime’s thugs shut down Imaguru, the country’s key startup hub

#33

Post by vbezhenar »

baybal2 wrote: post #17

Shake that boat, provoke Kremlin, arm the populace, make Kremlin bleed, and go broke. The longer the Russia will be dragged into this war, the deeper Putinisms' grave will be, and the less is the chance of Russia ever growing big enough to threaten Europe. I am totally for dragging Russia into a bloody war.

Only those who know nothing of war could wish for it to happen. You're totally for dragging Russia into a bloody war until your dear ones will be killed by this war. Remember that Russia rockets are pointed all over the world and death of the human civilization is one button press away, so even if you're sitting in US, you're not safe.

Putin is not eternal. He's old man. He'll die soon. He'll likely give up presidency earlier. If Putin is all you hate about Russia, you just have to wait a little bit.

Re: Belarusian regime’s thugs shut down Imaguru, the country’s key startup hub

#34

Post by mschuster91 »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #31
Jkae80 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah? Check out the involvement of NGO directly financed by the West. What ever happened in Ukraine's coup orchestrated by the West is not going to happen in Belarus. And that is a hard pill to swallow for you people.

Lets imagine the coup is orchestrated by the West. The guy currently in charge is corrupt and a murderer. Is living in Belarus going to get worse without him?

> The guy currently in charge is corrupt and a murderer. Is living in Belarus going to get worse without him?

If one goes by the example of what happened in Afghanistan, Iraq or Libya, the answer is very well: yes, this could happen.

Putsching away or otherwise deposing a regime is only one step. Without a solid aftercare plan (like the Marshall Plan after WW2) to empower democratic actors, the power vacuum can have really really bad outcomes.

Re: Belarusian regime’s thugs shut down Imaguru, the country’s key startup hub

#35

Post by ramtatatam »

postingawayonhn wrote: post #14
anovikov wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The choice is simple: Lukashenka or Putin. I'd pick Lukashenka, at least some form of quasi-independent Belarus is better than none at all. It is so patently obvious that no non-manipulated Belarus will be allowed to exist... Just because all country is Russian speaking - even to a bigger degree than Crimea and is wholly owned by the Russian propaganda reality tunnel.

You do realise that a lot of people in Russia want to get rid of Putin too? And neither dictator will live forever, both are in their late 60s.

I'm reading about people wanting to get rid of Putin since at least 2010, the sad reality 10 years later is that he is still there...

Re: Belarusian regime’s thugs shut down Imaguru, the country’s key startup hub

#36

Post by luckylion »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #31
Jkae80 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah? Check out the involvement of NGO directly financed by the West. What ever happened in Ukraine's coup orchestrated by the West is not going to happen in Belarus. And that is a hard pill to swallow for you people.

Lets imagine the coup is orchestrated by the West. The guy currently in charge is corrupt and a murderer. Is living in Belarus going to get worse without him?

I have no real dog in the fight, but the exact same arguments were made about Iraq and Libya. They weren't great places to live before removing the dictators, but they were much, much worse afterwards.

Not saying that's the same in Belarus, but that argument by itself doesn't hold water.

Re: Belarusian regime’s thugs shut down Imaguru, the country’s key startup hub

#37

Post by baybal2 »

iyn wrote: post #15

I've been following the situation in Belarus since last August and it's really terrible. I admire how so many brave people look death in the eye and still fight for freedom. I have friends there and this allowed me to understand that there's so much potential in Belarus -- there are so many talented, intelligent people getting by in this adversarial environment. So sad to see how Lukashenko's kleptocracy regime waste…

> Anyway -- you can help!

The best way to help them now is to send arms, but that if of course if you can get them through the border.

Belarus knows that they can't trust army drafted from regular men, and that's why the army was sent off to seal the borders, while the special police monsters are let to keep doing their atrocities inside cities.

The West is also unwittingly facilitates this by keeping shutting down attempts to get arms to Belarus from Balkans.

It's now in the news, but Poland, a NATO member, has already shut a third attempt to get arms to the country, despite Warsaw itself being the one initiating this with Belarus opposition.

Re: Belarusian regime’s thugs shut down Imaguru, the country’s key startup hub

#38

Post by levosmetalo »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #31
Jkae80 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah? Check out the involvement of NGO directly financed by the West. What ever happened in Ukraine's coup orchestrated by the West is not going to happen in Belarus. And that is a hard pill to swallow for you people.

Lets imagine the coup is orchestrated by the West. The guy currently in charge is corrupt and a murderer. Is living in Belarus going to get worse without him?

List of countries where "the West" organized a coup against a "corrupt murderer dictator" to establish "democratic elected government":

- Ukraine - Syria - Libya - Georgia - Iraq - Iran - Afghanistan - Yugoslavia - Venezuela - Cuba - ex-Yugoslavia - Chile - ...

All those countries were devastated by the "democratization". I would like to see one example where that went good for the local population in general and where that brought progress and prosperity.

Re: Belarusian regime’s thugs shut down Imaguru, the country’s key startup hub

#39

Post by baybal2 »

vbezhenar wrote: post #33
baybal2 wrote: post #17

Shake that boat, provoke Kremlin, arm the populace, make Kremlin bleed, and go broke. The longer the Russia will be dragged into this war, the deeper Putinisms' grave will be, and the less is the chance of Russia ever growing big enough to threaten Europe. I am totally for dragging Russia into a bloody war.

Only those who know nothing of war could wish for it to happen. You're totally for dragging Russia into a bloody war until your dear ones will be killed by this war. Remember that Russia rockets are pointed all over the world and death of the human civilization is one button press away, so even if you're sitting in US, you're not safe. Putin is not eternal. He's old man. He'll die soon. He'll likely give up presidenc…

Do not wait. Act. Act to not to let his system survive him.

It's a better for the country to die, than to let Putinism survive, and recover. If the world will let Putinism to come back, it will come back in force, and with vengeance.

Re: Belarusian regime’s thugs shut down Imaguru, the country’s key startup hub

#40

Post by baq »

baybal2 wrote: post #37
iyn wrote: post #15

I've been following the situation in Belarus since last August and it's really terrible. I admire how so many brave people look death in the eye and still fight for freedom. I have friends there and this allowed me to understand that there's so much potential in Belarus -- there are so many talented, intelligent people getting by in this adversarial environment. So sad to see how Lukashenko's kleptocracy regime waste…

> Anyway -- you can help! The best way to help them now is to send arms, but that if of course if you can get them through the border. Belarus knows that they can't trust army drafted from regular men, and that's why the army was sent off to seal the borders, while the special police monsters are let to keep doing their atrocities inside cities. The West is also unwittingly facilitates this by keeping shutting down a…

you really think having a civil war right around the corner, practically on the other side of the fence, is something any country wants to have? not to mention having an armed rebellion means putin's intervention is guaranteed and then belarus just becomes another federal district.
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