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CR2032 is 2cm wide so you're probably referring to smaller batteries as these cannot be swallowed by a child.

The rule of thumb used to be that if it fits in a 35mm film canister, it's too small to have around children younger than 3. Nowadays I suppose a lot of people don't know what a film 35 mm canister is...

Another metric is a toilet paper tube.

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>And even if users don’t have an iOS device, an AirTag separated from its owner for an extended period of time will play a sound when moved to draw attention to it.

So, this prevents some legitimate use cases, for example putting a tag in a suitcase for the flight, because it'll start beeping at some point? A shame. It would've been cool standing at that conveyor belt at the airport and rather than staring at the luggage as it comes, being able to sense one's own stuff. Also, seems that it's not suitable for putting on a cat or dog's collar for the same reason.

> standing at that conveyor belt at the airport

you're not supposed to put batteries in your luggage

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Yes now they do. For years they had only non-user-replaceable ones but they were happy to charge a large fee for a swap.

Tile sends me free replaceable batteries. Hopefully AirTag opens up their API so Tile can integrate. I’m just assuming AirTag would be slightly more integrated than Tile.

Here is Gruber's take (from Daring Fireball):

> Conspicuously absent from the list [of third-party products using the Find My network], of course, is Tile. Given their membership in Epic’s Coalition for App Fairness, I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for Apple to promote Tile’s products. And it’s unclear to me whether Tile even wants to be in the Find My app — their spat with Apple is more about their own app competing with Find My, and their accusations that Apple unfairly advantages Find My by not holding it to the same rules as third-party apps that ask for always-on location access. Apple’s solution is this third-party accessory program; Tile’s preferred solution would be Apple allowing Tile’s own app to do everything Find My can do.

https://daringfireball.net/linked/2021/04/07/find-my-third-p...

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In Australia roughly 20 kids per week present to emergency having swallowed or inserted a button battery and in several cases many have tragically died. It is an agonising death over a period of days/weeks for the child and horrible for the parents to witness. Many times both the parents and medical professionals don't realise what is actually happening to the child until it is too late. There is growing support for…

I wonder if (and I wish) battery producers could use the same "coating" as the Nintendo Switch cartridges. They taste disgusting and greatly reduce the risk of having a child swallowing them.

Why have you told me this, I now have an urge to go test this by licking a cartridge.

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I wouldn't put a magnet for theft on my child's wrist in effort to keep them from getting lost.

I find it hard to imagine that a $400 device is worth the risk of being caught accosting or kidnapping a child. Society doesn’t look kindly on people who threaten children.

Kinda think kid would loose it quicker, but it really depends where you live. In some places their books might be worth more. In some it's 3 months salary.

Watch does sound like a good fit for kids - enough to get information, but not screen size to lurk on it all day.

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Apple Watch for kids launched last fall with cellular and GPS support. You probably want something like it for kids in the older end of that range.

I wouldn't put a magnet for theft on my child's wrist in effort to keep them from getting lost.

A stolen apple watch is pretty much useless. A stolen iPhone can be sold for parts, as there's a big market for original screens, but apple watch parts are in not as big a demand (I think).

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Trackers have existed for a while, but the privacy preserving ad-hoc device network approach is definitely an innovation.

Is it though? Tile seems to do the exact same thing according to https://www.thetileapp.com/en-us/how-it-works (see "Notify When Found") I don't have one so I can't conclusively say either way, but it seems like the only "innovation" Apple can probably claim over Tile is that every iPhone should support the network out of the box (I assume) rather than having to rely only on people who already have the app.

The fact that it works with any iPhone /is/ the innovation. I would imagine less than 0,5% of iPhone users has the Tile app installed. A worldwide network of connected iPhones will make this technology finally worth using.

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> AirTag is designed for over a year’s worth of battery life with everyday use. The CR2032 battery is user-replaceable and widely available. Replacement batteries are sold separately. That's the piece of information I wanted to know first. Devices like this can be built, but those can't run on batteries for a reasonable time frame. Apple made it practical.

So if the battery is replaceable I can simply remove the battery to disable the AirTag once I steal the item it is "tracking" ?

You could also remove the whole AirTag?

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The AirPods case can already be tracked, but annoyingly you can't make it make a sound. If you leave a single AirPod out, you can make it make a sound, but for me this is useless because I always misplace the case (with AirPods inside). I don't see why it's not possible to have the AirPods make noise from within the case. I understand the sound would be muffled by the case itself, but that's still better than nothing…

Can they be tracked? Every time I try, the map location is seriously out of date

Instructions here: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207581

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I thought one of the big use cases for this was to track stolen items, like a backpack or maybe even a bicycle. But the "anti-stalking" feature will notify someone if an AirTag they don't own appears to be traveling with them. Does this render it useless for anti-theft, then? Since it will just notify a thief that the bike they just stole is being tracked, and they can look for the AirTag and throw it in the nearest…

I thought it was intended for lost items rather than stolen items. I've had my phone stolen multiple times and thieves know exactly what to do to prevent 'find my' activating. I'm sure it wouldn't take them long to find/disable AirTags either.

On the upside as long as you have Find My iPhone activated when you did have the phone it doesn't have a huge amount of value to the thief, particularly on newer models where individual components can't even be swapped without issues.
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