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The Endless Acid Banger: algorithmic self-composing acid techno music

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Re: The Endless Acid Banger: algorithmic self-composing acid techno music

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Post by scriptkiddy »

brokenmachine wrote: post #240
scriptkiddy wrote: post #222

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I think I'm interpreting algorithmic composition in a different way than you are. I am someone who has always been profoundly affected by music. This is to the point where some songs consistently give me frision or make my eyes water up. Music, for me, is a profoundly emotional experience. I was just never very good at creating music; that is, until a few years ago. I got into making music using DAWs and learned a lo…

>but there is a lot of room for creativity as the genre isn't very well defined >I'm still not a great musician These two statements might be connected. Great musicians redefine or create their own genre. Followers are constrained by the existing definitions. You play synthwave on a banjo? That sounds pretty creative to me.

> You play synthwave on a banjo? That sounds pretty creative to me.

Lol no. Those two things are not related, though it does give me some ideas.

Re: The Endless Acid Banger: algorithmic self-composing acid techno music

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Post by daniellarusso »

samstave wrote: post #186
stinos wrote: post #154

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Yeah I checked again and there's definitely more 'standard' acid in there. Now it's just waiting until someone records it and posts it as being theirs :)

Cant wait until "gem and the holograms" is a real thing (an AI powered rockstar who is not a real human but is a world-wide super-star)

I am pretty sure Synergy did all the heavy lifting.

How do you compete against the Misfits, though?

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Post by mekkkkkk »

gilbetron wrote: post #156
mekkkkkk wrote: post #80

This made me want to grind lap times in Wipeout 2097. The soundtrack and atmosphere in that game was really similar to this, and like nothing I'd heard or seen before at the time. It probably shaped my taste in so many ways. Fond memories! EDIT: For those sharing the nostalgia, it turns out that the composer of the soundtrack, Cold Storage, remastered it and put it up on streaming services. It's a two part EP called…

I was going to write a post saying I was glad a "later" wipeout game had the effect as the original had on me, then I looked into it and saw that Wipeout 2097 was called Wipeout XL in North American, and was the exact game I played :D So, I'll just echo what you said: the soundtrack was foundational in my adult music tastes :)

Glad to hear it! Just out of curiosity, where did you end up taste wise? I found DnB pretty early on and it has always remained the backbone of my rotation. Mostly dark stuff like Current Value, Noisia, S.P.Y etc.

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Post by mettamage »

dylanz wrote: post #163
bennysomething wrote: post #18

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Yep rebirth was amazing. Even more amazing was Reason from the same company I think. Wasted so much time on reason.

Propellerhead, right? I remember opening Reason for the first time (I had no experience with music hardware) and was completely lost. I played around with knobs for a long time trying to make sounds with limited luck. Then I clicked something and the entire rack flipped around and there were patch cables hanging there that I could plug anywhere. I think I plugged things into different holes, the one sound I had going…

Haha, this was my experience with Cubase. Then one day, I came into a music shop complaining about Cubase. The guy showed me how to hook up a simple VSTi, and I was hooked. I discovered Reason soon after.

Then there was this Dutch House DJ, A-lusion (I think that was his name). He said he used Reason in combination with Cubase.

That got me really really hooked.

Then I found some videos of some hip hop artist, showing how he made hip hop beats in Reason.

That got me so hooked that I still want to go back to that time. But alas, I'm programming. I like programming, but producing music was my passion back in the day.

Re: The Endless Acid Banger: algorithmic self-composing acid techno music

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Post by yaxu »

spiralganglion wrote: post #225
jmfldn wrote: post #58

This is a great project, well done. Algorithmic music is fascinating to me, I feel like there's a lot of untapped potential in the concept particularly with more 'complex' genres where higher levels of composition and structural continuity are required. This tends to work much better with loop-based genres but I'd personally love to do a side project on something that could write melodies from some sort of generative…

Agreed, but I'd like to take it a step further. Rather than fitting new compositional ideas into the patterns and structures of our existing music theories, I'd like to use computation to create new theories. As an example, I've become really interested in the fact that tempo and meter are taken as constant, grid-like structures in pretty much all existing music practices (even within, say, Gamelan, though there you…

People create new theories every time they make a piece of music. Computer music tools allow them to work with those theories. Still lots of work to do. The idea of there being "a music theory" is perpetuated by music schools obsessed with the music of a handful of dead white guys.

> tempo and meter are taken as constant, grid-like structures in pretty much all existing music practices

I don't think that's remotely true.

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Post by thezorroboy »

https://iphonesoft.fr/2009/12/29/easymix This wasn't AI based, because 2009, but with a brain at the commands, you ended up with the same "pre-synchronization" Turned out the difficulty in this project was more to a) find a source of decent sampels b) get them to the right sound quality / length for synchronization

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Post by varispeed »

If someone automates music creation in the popular styles and then automates submitting it for copyright protection, then in not so distant future creation of any music will be illegal, as every nice sounding melody will be claimed. In a way this is what large labels do. They release a ton of similar sounding music just for that reason. I think the patent trolling equivalent in music world has not been discussed much.

Check this video from Adam Neely: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfXn_ecH5Rw

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Post by samjanis »

1055 points and still counting. How cool is that?

The system usage on this is well-designed. I'm using an ASUS F201E Notebook with Debian 10 and the CPU throttled down to 790Mhz (just a bit less than 0.8GHz) to save battery while I'm out on coding field trips, with CPU usage registering around 20%. Very nice.

After listening to this for an hour, it does well with the minimalist resources it's given. Just like what people do on the Pico-8, limitations start becoming an attractive feature. And you can do a lot with 16 bars. A good example is "Army of Me" by Björk - it only uses 8 bars for its backing track but the constant tweaking of filters make it sound a lot more.

This is starting to get in to www.Pouet.net material. Seriously, you should submit it as a demo. It's not just the coding they're after in demos but also creativity. The votes on HN say it all.

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Post by hutzlibu »

brokenmachine wrote: post #238
Applejinx wrote: post #220

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Put a camera on the crowd, and motion-track the bouncing of heads. That'll give you two banger metrics: one, how far they're all bouncing/jumping/nodding, and two, how consistently they are. That would be enough to construct a robot DJ that could track the variations it was making, and rate them for 'better/worse'. Then you just make a cool-looking puppet to store the camera in, that can move around and possibly wave…

The loudness war has ended, prepare yourself for the bobbing war. There was an interesting youtube video I watched, "All my homies hate Skrillex" that said that the evolution of agressive Skrillex-style "dubstep" over the older, more introspective dubstep was a result of smoking being banned indoors in UK clubs. This made the smokers have to leave every now and then, which forced the DJs to have to play more agressiv…

I love clubs, but hate it when I smell like a ash tray afterwards, despite not smoking.

Another theory about the changing for more aggressive beats: maybe the dj's themself were affected and got angry having to wait for their next cigarette?

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