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Re: .NET MAUI: .NET Multi-Platform App UI

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Post by ab_testing »

bob1029 wrote: post #37

The amount of energy Microsoft is pouring into these front-end efforts is pretty incredible. A more recent development that has me very excited is Blazor Desktop: https://medium.com/young-coder/blazor-desktop-the-electron-f... > This leads to the second difference — in a Blazor Desktop app hosted in WebWindow, there’s no built-in web server. Instead, it’s pure .NET all the way down. And while we haven’t seen exactly…

What is a good way to learn the .NET framework or a guided path to understand the development hierarchy in .NET. It seems expansive with tools for everything from web, app and desktop development. Microsoft provides tutorials but it feels like they are all over the place and not really directed.

Re: .NET MAUI: .NET Multi-Platform App UI

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Post by oaiey »

ab_testing wrote: post #151
bob1029 wrote: post #37

The amount of energy Microsoft is pouring into these front-end efforts is pretty incredible. A more recent development that has me very excited is Blazor Desktop: https://medium.com/young-coder/blazor-desktop-the-electron-f... > This leads to the second difference — in a Blazor Desktop app hosted in WebWindow, there’s no built-in web server. Instead, it’s pure .NET all the way down. And while we haven’t seen exactly…

What is a good way to learn the .NET framework or a guided path to understand the development hierarchy in .NET. It seems expansive with tools for everything from web, app and desktop development. Microsoft provides tutorials but it feels like they are all over the place and not really directed.

Learn C# in vscode and console applications. After that, search the app model (they have like 20 of them).

And you want to .NET and not the .NET Framework :).

What tutorial is best, depends a lot on your experience and target.

Re: .NET MAUI: .NET Multi-Platform App UI

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Post by fpig »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #131
sk5t wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Colleges have been teaching Visual Basic as a starter programming language for decades. Where? In the US, university-level intro to programming would have been in Lisp, Forth, C, C++, and/or Java before possibly trying something else in the mid 2000s, but I struggle to imagine an American university strong in CS touching anything in the VB namespace (5, 6, .NET) whatsoever.

You struggle to imagine because you went elitist. "University level strong in CS", I said college. A lot of colleges teach Visual Basic. No, Ivy League schools might not, but a lot of colleges do. Heck, my community college taught a class for kids on it in the late 90s (my intro to programming) and still teaches college students a VB track today.

I have never heard anyone from any school in any country mention they used VB in school. Everyone I know who used VB, including me, learned it outside of school (either as a hobby or at work). I don't think VB in colleges was ever as widespread as you claim.

Re: .NET MAUI: .NET Multi-Platform App UI

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Post by sandGorgon »

oaiey wrote: post #149
sandGorgon wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried Flutter Web instead? https://devblogs.microsoft.com/surface-duo/flutter-dual-scre...

Maui is targeting React Native and Flutter. Same for Blazer with Electron. They make this attempts to bring C# everywhere. Using Flutter, Angular or setting else is the context switch they try to avoid. For me, as a .NET fanboy, they are a year or two late.

this is very interesting. Are you saying that Maui will generate Flutter code using c# ?

BTW, there's a very interesting (and amusing) bug that advocated "dumping Maui for Flutter"

https://github.com/dotnet/maui/issues/160

Re: .NET MAUI: .NET Multi-Platform App UI

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Post by ChicagoDave »

ab_testing wrote: post #151
bob1029 wrote: post #37

The amount of energy Microsoft is pouring into these front-end efforts is pretty incredible. A more recent development that has me very excited is Blazor Desktop: https://medium.com/young-coder/blazor-desktop-the-electron-f... > This leads to the second difference — in a Blazor Desktop app hosted in WebWindow, there’s no built-in web server. Instead, it’s pure .NET all the way down. And while we haven’t seen exactly…

What is a good way to learn the .NET framework or a guided path to understand the development hierarchy in .NET. It seems expansive with tools for everything from web, app and desktop development. Microsoft provides tutorials but it feels like they are all over the place and not really directed.

Well this is a very loaded question. I’d tackle it by basic aspects of base development.

- File Handling, IO, Streams - Data Storage, ADO.NET - Generics, Collections - Linq, Lambdas - Threading, Tasks - Cryptography

I’d just build console apps, which you can do on Windows, Linux, or MacOS.

Just install dotnet-core.

Re: .NET MAUI: .NET Multi-Platform App UI

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Post by dt3ft »

.NET 6? Hold up, WPF was never really finished. This is demonstrated by existence of companies which sell lacking components that should otherwise have been included with WPF: Telerik, Infragistics, Syncfusion etc. Heck, creating a Report with out-of-the-box WPF is an unforgettable nightmare.

I, for one, would prefer that Microsoft, instead of pumping all these half-finished "cool new toys", ships stable, performant, feature-complete software. We either have to buy 3rd party components, or write our own components from the ground up. Sure, they provide a Button or a Combobox, but good luck if you need anything slightly more complex, like a searchable GridView, autocomplete Combobox, Charts etc.

Re: .NET MAUI: .NET Multi-Platform App UI

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Post by Const-me »

That thing is almost useless for the rich GUI I usually work on. I often need to integrate hardware-rendered pieces: 3D content, hardware decoded video, images computed by CUDA, etc.

Technically the web has comparable things, WebGL and video element, but they are very limited compared to native stuff. Also usability is not great, JavaScript is too different from C and all these low-level multimedia related things are essentially C APIs.

Re: .NET MAUI: .NET Multi-Platform App UI

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Post by tomc1985 »

tomc1985 wrote: post #2

Any direct experiences using this? I've been looking for a good multiplatform UI for desktop that does Mac/Linux/Windows. Mobile is a nice side benefit. It would be nice to use C# again No, I'm not interested in Electron. Blegh.

I think I may have gotten this tech mixed up with Avalonia. Though, one integrates the other IIRC?

Re: .NET MAUI: .NET Multi-Platform App UI

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Post by flukus »

bob1029 wrote: post #37

The amount of energy Microsoft is pouring into these front-end efforts is pretty incredible. A more recent development that has me very excited is Blazor Desktop: https://medium.com/young-coder/blazor-desktop-the-electron-f... > This leads to the second difference — in a Blazor Desktop app hosted in WebWindow, there’s no built-in web server. Instead, it’s pure .NET all the way down. And while we haven’t seen exactly…

> The amount of energy Microsoft is pouring into these front-end efforts is pretty incredible.

After winforms, silverlight, wpf, webforms and WinUI I don't want energy, I want to see them focus for more than 5 minutes. The only stable UI tech from MS with any long term support has been Win32 that came out 25 years ago.

I predict blazor will be quietly dropped (they won't actually admit it for 5 years), just like the others and you'll be forced to rewrite your software in a few years.

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