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Also the first time they shipped different amounts of ram stratified by storage choice.

I'm pretty sure the 2018 iPad Pro with 1 TB also had more RAM than the other models.

It had 6gb of ram but only 4 was available to apps. The extra 2 went to multitasking.

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The product page is up indicating 128GB base storage and an interesting RAM note: > 8GB RAM on models with 128GB, 256GB, or 512GB storage > 16GB RAM on models with 1TB or 2TB storage

Does anyone know what the reason for this might be? (doubling the RAM because the SSD is larger) Also are there any performance implications to this? Should I get the 1TB version for the 16GB RAM because it'll be a snappier machine and more future-proofed?

Its to reduce the number of SKUs they have. Its common for hardware to have only the high end specs matched with other high end specs because its not often someone wants the absolute best of one spec and the worst of another spec.

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What kinds of iPadOS workflows benefit from this most? The device never seemed lacking in performance.

The ram boost will be useful for procreate. It limits the number of layers you can use and that limit is on the verge of in the way for me on the 4gb ipad.

It could also enable better external monitor support with a browser on one monitor and an app on the internal.

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Correct me if my layman's understanding is wrong, but the M1 in an iPad is not as significant a change as it was in the Macbook/Mini, isn't that correct? iPad was already using Apple's Arm A12/13 chip, etc so this is kind of incremental?

Its a 50% performance boost over the last ipad pro and a 2-4x memory increase. Thats pretty massive imo

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To me, it doesn't matter how powerful the iPad is if the software experience is subpar. Multitasking is cumbrous enough that it might as well not exist, multi-display setups can only mirror at a fixed aspect ratio, it lacks multiple user profiles requiring a family to be under a single user, and the few apps that take advantage of the keyboard/trackpad are nowhere similar to their desktop counterparts. Take Excel for…

This is something I've been saying: Try cloning and building even a moderate project from github on iSH on the latest iThing with Apple silicon and compare the same on a pinephone with a decade old budget SoC. One will get painfully hot and visibly tick through a large fraction of the battery while not letting you look at anything else or look away from the screen without killing the 10s of minutes long operation whi…

I own a pinkebook pro and it can't survive a kernel compilation (which is quite a normal thing to do for this device because it doesn't run on mainline kernel and requires patching) without dying from the battery drainage while plugged in.

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To me, it doesn't matter how powerful the iPad is if the software experience is subpar. Multitasking is cumbrous enough that it might as well not exist, multi-display setups can only mirror at a fixed aspect ratio, it lacks multiple user profiles requiring a family to be under a single user, and the few apps that take advantage of the keyboard/trackpad are nowhere similar to their desktop counterparts. Take Excel for…

Yeah, I saw this announcement and was thinking, “Why do I need more power?” coming from a 2018 iPad Pro. All this power is cool , but, the design of iPadOS is just not conducive to me wanting to get anything done on it. I know that’s ambiguous and hand wavey. Part of it is certainly the multitasking. Part of it is the keyboard. Part of it is no local Unix or build tools or good code editor. Yeah, I can SSH into anoth…

As an IT "Pro" the only thing I can use "professionally" (apart from testing iPad apps) is the SSH client, and that works fine on my iPad 1.

Sheesh, the browser doesn't even have devtools.

(only grouchy because I'd love to get one if it wasn't so crippled)

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Any chance that you know of any good dock station with 3 HDMI ports? Since DP on my monitors is used by desktop GPU.

Good luck. Even with my old intel based Mac I struggled to find a decent dock. Lots of docks have DisplayPorts and hdmi or if you’re unlikely like myself you are forced to use USB C to hdmi dongles. I haven’t bought a DisplayLink and probably won’t. Once an Arm based Mac comes out with dual monitor support I’m giving my wife the M1 Air and buying a new one.

I guess I'll just go with hardware splitter then.

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Locked down as in Apple won't let you run anything not going through the store on the device because it breaks their business model. You aren't going to install a custom browser to test your front-end (or get usable devtools), no brew or package manager, no custom IDE unless it's built for iOS with its insane limitations (nobody is going to bother). At best you'd be able to port some dev tools and install with your c…

> because it breaks their business model Once upon a time, their business model was to build solid hardware and not get in the way of people who (like me) don't care for their software. I was hoping that the switch to M1 indicated some intention to return to that business model.

I guess you never used classical Mac OS.

The modern Apple is just like how Apple used to be when not trying to save the company from insolvency.

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I personally think multitasking works great, but I guess that's subjective. The claim about external screens is not true though, as a developer you can put anything you want on an external screen, mirroring is just the fallback behaviour. Almost all apps obviously take advantage of the keyboard, and 100% of apps where it makes sense. The trackpad can also be used in all apps, although it is true that not all apps are…

> as a developer you can put anything you want on an external screen as a developer, not a user. I can’t have two different apps running on different displays, nor can I take advantage of the display’s resolution. In practice, everything is mirrored. > Almost all apps obviously take advantage of the keyboard When I say take advantage of the keyboard and mouse, I mean to offer shortcuts/navigation akin to what you’d f…

It is true that the second screen is controlled by the current app, but I don’t think there are any other limitations.

There are absolutely keyboard shortcuts. Obviously this is up to developers, a lot of apps like Things, Shapr3d etc have excellent shortcut support.

It takes a while to optimise UX in a new interface paradigm, amd again this is obviously up to developers. There are few technical limitations. And considering how little Excel on the PC has changed over the last 20 years, we should be happy. And look at Numbers and Pages on iPad, really good UX.

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Yes, this is why the default iPhone calculator app is completely useless. These forced animations make tasks take the same amount of time regardless of how fast the hardware gets. I would love to be able to turn off all animations in iphone/ipad UIs.

You can. Settings -> Accessibility -> Motion -> Reduce Motion

Workaround. It should capture the touches and send it anyway. Like on macOS for example
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