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Post by smasher164 »

samatman wrote: post #304
smasher164 wrote: post #46

To me, it doesn't matter how powerful the iPad is if the software experience is subpar. Multitasking is cumbrous enough that it might as well not exist, multi-display setups can only mirror at a fixed aspect ratio, it lacks multiple user profiles requiring a family to be under a single user, and the few apps that take advantage of the keyboard/trackpad are nowhere similar to their desktop counterparts. Take Excel for…

Things I do on an iPad, ranked by how unlikely I am to do them on another computer: - Draw. This is the big one. I'm no fine artist, but I do a bit of calligraphy now and then, and Procreate is amazing. - Make memes. It might not be more "productive" to caption funny pictures on my iPad than it would be to do it on desktop, but it's more fun. It feels more natural to manipulate images on a tablet. - Read PDFs. the 12…

It's be pretty great to see Final Cut Pro on the iPad Pro. I'm surprised it doesn't already exist. Maybe the workflows there are incompatible with the iPad UX?

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Post by chipotle_coyote »

swiley wrote: post #109
smasher164 wrote: post #46

To me, it doesn't matter how powerful the iPad is if the software experience is subpar. Multitasking is cumbrous enough that it might as well not exist, multi-display setups can only mirror at a fixed aspect ratio, it lacks multiple user profiles requiring a family to be under a single user, and the few apps that take advantage of the keyboard/trackpad are nowhere similar to their desktop counterparts. Take Excel for…

This is something I've been saying: Try cloning and building even a moderate project from github on iSH on the latest iThing with Apple silicon and compare the same on a pinephone with a decade old budget SoC. One will get painfully hot and visibly tick through a large fraction of the battery while not letting you look at anything else or look away from the screen without killing the 10s of minutes long operation whi…

Well, I might say it's not fair because iSH is not your only choice on the iPhone, at least if your goal is "checking out a git repo and editing files." Running git clone using an actual iOS native git client like Working Copy is pretty fast. And because Working Copy is an iOS file provider, you can edit files in a repo directly in a native iOS text editor like Textastic. If we're talking about doing web development, pair that with a cheap Linode or Digital Ocean VPS, the Blink terminal app and/or Secure ShellFish (an SSH client that also hooks in SFTP/SCP in as a file provider along with Shortcuts automation) and you're probably doing pretty darn well.

Now, if your goal is "do dev work just the same way I would on a Mac or a Linux machine," then no, the iPad's not going to cut it in its current incarnation, for reasons which one can argue are arbitrary. But honestly, I don't think a PinePhone will really cut it, either. :)

(Digression on arbitrariness: Apple has so far stuck very doggedly to the notion that iPads, like iPhones, should be more like consoles than general purpose computers, and their decisions about the platform mostly make sense if you look at them from that "app console" perspective. That doesn't mean they're the right decisions, but they're definitely conscious decisions. Up until, well, today I was pretty sure Apple was going to keep sticking by this, and that their response to people saying "what about Xcode on the iPad" would be "may we interest you in this Apple Silicon-based Macbook". Putting the M1 CPU in the new iPad Pro under the M1 branding, rather than calling it "A14X" or some such, give me some pause, though.)

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by chipotle_coyote »

drewzero1 wrote: post #282
justaguy88 wrote: post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always assumed that safari/youtube/netflix were the common use cases. Do numerically many people actually video/photo editing on these devices to make it "common"?

As far as I can tell, those would better describe the use cases for the plain old iPad, whereas the iPad Pro is meant to be used for more content creation in addition to those things. I've been a little confused about Apple's product lineup the last decade; does anybody else miss the foursquare grid of consumer/pro and desktop/portable?

You are not alone. :)

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by amilios »

cjm42 wrote: post #288
Joeri wrote: post #267

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the problem being described, but I just tried this and it is impossible for me to type so fast in the iphone calculator app that it misses inputs. The animation completes in the background but does not block anything.

If I type "3 + 6 + 9" as fast as I can, then hit "=", I only get 18 about half the time. Sometimes I get 12, sometimes 15, occasionally something else. This is with a iPhone 11 Pro on iOS 14.4.2. It's ridiculous. I always hear the same number of clicks, though.

That is extremely strange. Weighing in from an iPhone XS here on the latest iOS, I cannot understand how it is humanly possible to type the numbers fast enough they aren't picked up. I just tried to do it, pressing 3+6+9= as fast as I could, and I could not manage to get it to not detect my taps. I wonder if you have a defective screen? I have no other explanation

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Post by arvinsim »

smasher164 wrote: post #441
samatman wrote: post #304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Things I do on an iPad, ranked by how unlikely I am to do them on another computer: - Draw. This is the big one. I'm no fine artist, but I do a bit of calligraphy now and then, and Procreate is amazing. - Make memes. It might not be more "productive" to caption funny pictures on my iPad than it would be to do it on desktop, but it's more fun. It feels more natural to manipulate images on a tablet. - Read PDFs. the 12…

It's be pretty great to see Final Cut Pro on the iPad Pro. I'm surprised it doesn't already exist. Maybe the workflows there are incompatible with the iPad UX?

I think they are banking on Lumafusion to be good enough for that use case

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Post by parisidau »

manigandham wrote: post #234
clairity wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "...gesture-like latencies in between to get it to work." i hate that animations on ios are i/o blocking. every single time i have to enter my passcode, it misses at least one if not two of my keypresses, which means i have to erase the whole thing and do it more slowly since the missing keypresses are essentially random (not just the final one or two). another related annoyance is alert popups that occur more than…

Yes, this is why the default iPhone calculator app is completely useless. These forced animations make tasks take the same amount of time regardless of how fast the hardware gets. I would love to be able to turn off all animations in iphone/ipad UIs.

You can. Settings -> Accessibility -> Motion -> Reduce Motion

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by buu700 »

f6v wrote: post #116
speedgoose wrote: post #19

I wish the iPad pro was not such a locked down operating system. I just want to run a web browser that is not safari, and visual studio code.

At that point, what's the difference to MBA? iPad will always be subpar in my eyes due to poor lappability in "laptop" mode. And I realised I don't want my work screen to be covered in fingerprints.

I'm glad someone brought this up. I always feel like I'm just stupid or missing something important when people start talking about the iPad Pro as a laptop replacement. As far as I can tell, it looks like it would be a huge pain in the ass to use anywhere other than on a stable flat surface.

And yeah, having to constantly clean a screen that big would drive me crazy. I'd much rather work in an environment where there's no expectation on the part of app developers that I have a touchscreen.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by speedgoose »

f6v wrote: post #116
speedgoose wrote: post #19

I wish the iPad pro was not such a locked down operating system. I just want to run a web browser that is not safari, and visual studio code.

At that point, what's the difference to MBA? iPad will always be subpar in my eyes due to poor lappability in "laptop" mode. And I realised I don't want my work screen to be covered in fingerprints.

I like to have a touchscreen.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by rubatuga »

tristanb wrote: post #311

Text selection, and IOS keyboard autocorrect will forever fuck this platform until they fix it. Autocorrect on my IOS device is so dam bad now. "Fir" instead of "for" - no manner of resetting dictionaries will fix it. Think you can catch it? Well IOS will re-write the whole sentence for you when it thinks it knows the context resulting in utter garbage being output. Using mail on IOS? Try clicking on a red underlined…

Before you press spacebar, click on the most lefthand suggestion on the suggested words, and it will stop the autocorrect.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by paulcole »

submeta wrote: post #287

I ended up using my iPad Pro 2018 as a third screen (via Airplay) below my 4k monitor. My MBP sits on the left. It‘s an excellent setup running iTerm on the iPad screen, calendar or email on the MBP screen and editor / IDE on the 4k display. Other than that I use the iPad Pro for occasional couch surfing. iOS is just too limited to use the iPad Pro for pro use-cases. Would love to have macOS on the iPad though. Somet…

> iOS (sic) is just too limited to use the iPad Pro for pro use-cases.

Too limited for all pro use cases or too limited for your use cases?

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