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In Australia roughly 20 kids per week present to emergency having swallowed or inserted a button battery and in several cases many have tragically died. It is an agonising death over a period of days/weeks for the child and horrible for the parents to witness. Many times both the parents and medical professionals don't realise what is actually happening to the child until it is too late. There is growing support for…

CR2032 is 2cm wide so you're probably referring to smaller batteries as these cannot be swallowed by a child.

The link in my post shows the damage a CR2032 button does when swallowed.

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In Australia roughly 20 kids per week present to emergency having swallowed or inserted a button battery and in several cases many have tragically died. It is an agonising death over a period of days/weeks for the child and horrible for the parents to witness. Many times both the parents and medical professionals don't realise what is actually happening to the child until it is too late. There is growing support for…

CR2032 is 2cm wide so you're probably referring to smaller batteries as these cannot be swallowed by a child.

I imagine smaller diameter batteries are a bigger issue but apparently the concerns are for this class of batteries in general. [1] That said, I don't see a call for banning them but just for being aware of the potential danger. (Although another link in this thread does seem to actively discourage using them.)

[1] https://www.kidsafevic.com.au/product-safety/button-batterie...

Re: Apple Introduces AirTag

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As pointed out above, this is already the status quo (replacable battery, 1 year life, etc). Tile has had it for years. I'm curious if it would've been technically feasible to have wireless charging on these instead of replaceable battery. Or would that greatly increase the price?

To be fair, replaceable batteries in laptops and phones also used to be the status quo and Apple successfully changed that. Just because it’s the status quo wouldn’t prevent Apple from “thinking different”.

Replaceable batteries were superseded by batteries of sufficient capacity for 99% of users. (And for the remaining 1% I'm sure the non-Apple marketplace has fantastic, no-compromise solutions.) Remember when it was impressive for a laptop to have three real hours of productive battery life? Back then, most laptop batteries were trivially hot-swappable. Now it's normal to get eight or more hours of productive use from a laptop battery.

I realise that capacity is theoretically orthogonal to swappability, but functionally it's relevant because battery casings, compartments, connectors and chassis strengthening elements all take up space that could otherwise go to a larger battery pack.

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The music is a strange, interesting riff on the Aquarium movement of Saint-Saëns' Carnival of the Animals , not the usual Apple modern pop stuff.

Yeah I loved that, it really fit the notion of being lost, swimming in the space under your couch cushions haha :)

Which in turn sounds a lot like and reminds me of "Rage over a lost penny" by Beethoven: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5HjwDih-WtQ

Re: Apple Introduces AirTag

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Once I started using Tile it became impossible for me to remember where I put my keys. There just wasn't any pressure to stay organized since the beeping would always save me. But whenever the battery was out or the Bluetooth wasn't connecting oh boy. Same kind of thing happened with GPS. I used to pay more attention to maps and really learned streets but now I just expect the phone to solve everything for me. I'm lo…

This kind of thing would be incredible built in to expensive portable electronics. My bf recently lost his very expensive sony earbuds while on holiday and once its not in the hotel room or your bags, its basically gone. The most likely situation is it was at one of the public transport lost item collections but calling up everywhere we had been was too much work. Airtags would have found them most likely.

Fun fact: Tile actually partners with device manufacturers to embed Tile into their products. For example, the Skullcandy Crusher Evo wireless headphones have Tile built-in.

https://www.skullcandy.com/crusher-evo-wireless-headphones

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What I need is the inverse of this -- my wife is forever losing her phone around the house, and I need a button on the wall that you can press to activate "find my phone" mode and play a beep on it. EDIT: Thank you for all the suggestions! I'm aware that this is possible from another iPhone or iWatch or iPad -- this is the current workflow. Use my phone or take the ipad away from the kids to play the beep. Is a butto…

If you so happen to have a Google Home you can also now ask the Google Assistant to find your iPhone too: https://www.macrumors.com/2021/04/14/google-assistant-locate...

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CR2032 is 2cm wide so you're probably referring to smaller batteries as these cannot be swallowed by a child.

I imagine smaller diameter batteries are a bigger issue but apparently the concerns are for this class of batteries in general. [1] That said, I don't see a call for banning them but just for being aware of the potential danger. (Although another link in this thread does seem to actively discourage using them.) [1] https://www.kidsafevic.com.au/product-safety/button-batterie...

Yes there is, that ABC article is especially painful to read. The number of parents holding pictures of these kids most no older than 4 who have died from these batteries.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-15/button-batteries-land...

https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/accc-welcomes-safety-a...

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post #522

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I imagine smaller diameter batteries are a bigger issue but apparently the concerns are for this class of batteries in general. [1] That said, I don't see a call for banning them but just for being aware of the potential danger. (Although another link in this thread does seem to actively discourage using them.) [1] https://www.kidsafevic.com.au/product-safety/button-batterie...

Yes there is, that ABC article is especially painful to read. The number of parents holding pictures of these kids most no older than 4 who have died from these batteries. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-15/button-batteries-land... https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/accc-welcomes-safety-a...

People are not going to stop using small replaceable batteries.

Re: Apple Introduces AirTag

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I too, found the anti-stalking features might hinder the use of AirTags for locating intentionally stolen items: (1) it has a removable battery, and also (2) "someone can tap [the tag] with their iPhone or NFC-capable device and instructions will guide them to disable the unknown AirTag". The anti-stalking feature also seems to contradict its privacy features: > Bluetooth signal identifiers transmitted by AirTag rota…

Its private from 3rd parties, but not private from apple and whoever subpoenas them. Apply this principle to everything apple does and says about privacy and you see it everywhere in their products. Even more cynically, you can say it's private from their competitors.

> Even more cynically, you can say it's private from their competitors.

I've heard this from a few people recently, but I don't understand the implied criticism. What should Apple do here? Keep my data mostly private but also slip a copy of it to Google and Microsoft?

Obviously not. Through the high purchase price of their products, I'm paying (and trusting) Apple to manage my privacy and keep it private from everyone else. The fact that "everyone" necessarily includes all of Apple's competitors isn't just irrelevant, it's a red herring.

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So if my family has a single car and we share keys it's going to annoy each of us that isn't the owner of the tag.

Thats good, stops parents tracking their kids without notifying them

Parents just equip them with an iPhone or Apple Watch instead.
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