Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

singhkays.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

221–230 of 299 posts

Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

#221

Post by cbozeman »

TameAntelope wrote: post #144
Mountain_Skies wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds more like you want to raise the subject but don't want anyone to challenge you on it so you'll "leave it at that."

I'm sorry, hit me up on my email in my profile if you want to discuss more! A "Is Joe Rogan a racist?" conversation is not interesting, and this place is about hosting interesting discussions.

> A "Is Joe Rogan a racist?" conversation is not interesting, and this place is about hosting interesting discussions.

Yeah... because it's a bullshit conversation that people know is false, and any attempt to try to argue otherwise would see you utterly destroyed with facts.

Rogan and Chappelle are great friends. Rogan was friends with Patrice O'Neal. He's friends with Colion Noir and has him on the show about every six - twelve months.

For a "racist", he's doing a pretty poor job.

Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

#222

Post by hobofan »

jackson1442 wrote: post #72
mvolfik wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Beware though that "available on Spotify" (idk Podimo) doesn't necessarily mean that it's exclusive there. But it's very common around here and many people use it for convenience (and the podcasts can advertise it as "look we are in this fancy mainstream app", not weird (?) RSS, while they likely offer that too). I myself used Spotify for freely available podcasts too, only recently switched to Podcast Addict for ner…

I believe Spotify, unless they buy an exclusive or something, still consumes RSS feeds to make podcasts work, so most anything on Spotify is freely available.

Yes. Started a podcast that's available on Spotify, which is as straightforward as entering the RSS feed URL of your podcast. I'm surprised they don't offer free hosting for podcasts directly via their platform, given all the other investments they are making in the space.

Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

#223

Post by kevincox »

crocodiletears wrote: post #220
kevincox wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AntennaPod is unfortunately quite lacking if you like to listen to "story" podcasts where you want to listen old -> new.

I've been a latecomer to the 'history of *' podcast genre. Recently been working through Revolutions. Antennapod lets you sort a podcast's episodes chronologically, reverse-chronologically, alphabetically, etc.

Yes but the auto-download feature doesn't work.

Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

#225

Post by crocodiletears »

sol_invictus wrote: post #181
redisman wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rogan is fine (if dumb) light entertainment to have in the background. I haven’t listened to a single episode since the move now that it’s not on YouTube anymore. Spotify is also totally awful for podcasts as the UX is for a music player. Besides Lex now fills that hole with a lot more intelligence

People also try to ignore that Spotify did exactly what everybody thought they would do - started watering down the guests and removing so-called controversial episodes. A big part of the Rogan show charm was the fringe guests, and his audience doesnt care the least for the kind of corporate virtue signalling Spotify is eminating. In effect, it went from offering somewhat novel things to being plain boring - like eve…

Exactly this. Rogan didn't always have something or somebody interesting on the podcast. But his show had teeth, and even though it didn't go out of its way to bare them, you knew they were there.

I didn't follow him to Spotify. Podcasting is a bastion of free-speech, and one of the few open ecosystems with real scale. I don't resent him taking the deal, but losing the show wasn't enough to tempt me into a gilded cage.

Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

#226

Post by fastball »

tshaddox wrote: post #112
Lendal wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, but they could lose subscribers due to Podcasts. See, I pay for Spotify because of their playlists. Playlists have nothing to do with podcasts. I listen to my podcasts using a different app. Yet Spotify keeps throwing its podcasts in my face. Spotify is not good at podcasts. That's why I use a different app for that. I'm getting tired of scrolling past all the podcast spam in my Spotify UI, and yet Spotify provid…

I recently gave Spotify a try for about 8 months but just switched back to Apple Music. My reason for switching back had nothing to do with podcasts, it was simply Spotify's terrible interface that makes it impossible to just browse all the music in your library . But I had also started to notice podcasts infiltrating UI that used to be only music playlists. A few times I even mistakenly clicked on a podcast thinking…

I pay for both, and I honestly can't get over how Apple Music feels more sluggish on my Apple computer than Spotify does. It's like night and day.

Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

#227

Post by devoutsalsa »

emayljames wrote: post #193
tachyonbeam wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's losing my interest more and more is that their music recommendations are terrible, rarely match my taste... And, uh, I wish there was an easier way for me to just browse music by category. I just want to see all the new releases under electronic music and browse through them quickly. I don't need to be spoon-fed things as part of "discover weekly". Also, the Spotify Chromecast integration is utter shit. It has…

YT Music has it all, categories, easy library listening, no podspaming, Chromecast. Spotify is like a salesman who has been drinking too much coffee.

For some reason, YouTube Music still puts music I've downvoted in the playlists it makes for me.

Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

#228

Post by crocodiletears »

kevincox wrote: post #223
crocodiletears wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been a latecomer to the 'history of *' podcast genre. Recently been working through Revolutions. Antennapod lets you sort a podcast's episodes chronologically, reverse-chronologically, alphabetically, etc.

Yes but the auto-download feature doesn't work.

You may be right on that, I have it disabled so I haven't noticed.

Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

#229

Post by aeon97 »

tshaddox wrote: post #185
NopeNotToday wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dont think Spotify cares about the 0.1% of users that bring their own MP3s. It's a shrinking market. The growth is all the people who never even heard of an EmPeaThree. I think back when I ripped my 350+ CDs to FLAC. In retrospect, it wasn't worth it.

I didn’t even try to upload my own songs. I just want to add stuff to my library and then be able to browse everything in my library by artist and album. On the iPhone app, this is impossible, which is absolutely baffling.

The only way to get around this is to make playlists that are just different albums, which is what I do. Not a great system, and I think it has actually changed the way I listen to music for the worse

Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

#230

Post by TameAntelope »

cbozeman wrote: post #221
TameAntelope wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry, hit me up on my email in my profile if you want to discuss more! A "Is Joe Rogan a racist?" conversation is not interesting, and this place is about hosting interesting discussions.

> A "Is Joe Rogan a racist?" conversation is not interesting, and this place is about hosting interesting discussions. Yeah... because it's a bullshit conversation that people know is false, and any attempt to try to argue otherwise would see you utterly destroyed with facts. Rogan and Chappelle are great friends. Rogan was friends with Patrice O'Neal. He's friends with Colion Noir and has him on the show about every…

Man, I'd love to discuss this with you, but I really don't think it makes for good HN content. Unlike most, I do enjoy getting "destroyed with facts". Please email me!
Post reply on HN