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Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by ianai »

technics256 wrote: post #342
deergomoo wrote: post #257

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I sold my nearly maxed out 16" MacBook Pro for an M1 Air. I hated the 16" with a passion, but the Air is my favourite computer I've ever owned. It sounds like a criticism, but the best thing about it is that it gives me absolutely no cause to ever think about it. I don't get irritated by it being burning hot and loud as hell because it's always cool and silent. I don't have to worry about battery life because it just…

My biggest concern is the screen size. Does it get in the way?

It’s a 13” display. You probably already know whether that’s enough or not - the processor can’t affect that.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by breakfastduck »

Applejinx wrote: post #340
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Yes, absolutely. In photography circles the iPad Pro is regarded as an amazing device that offers performance and color quality that you won't be able to achieve even with expensive desktop monitors. Also, for the professional photographer, whose average rig is probably worth at least 20 to 50k depending on what they do, a 2000$ tablet with these characteristics is a steal.

Well, now, that's interesting. I legitimately did not know that, even though I own three Blackmagic PCC4k video cameras and take quite an interest in 'playback technology', whether audio or imagery. I do know that my horrifyingly over-expensive iMac Pro has a good screen, but not Pro Display XDR good. I'd assumed the iPads were basically consumer grade. So the iPad Pro actually does make sense for color timing and pr…

The screen is honestly amazing. Puts everything else in its field (and most pc / laptop monitors) to shame.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by ianai »

lucasverra wrote: post #341
gordon_freeman wrote: post #313

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care to share hardware specs of your M1 Air?

16gb ram, base SSD. You cannot go wrong with that. Great machine I'm typing on this message

16 gig and 512g ssd. It gets like 10% better ssd performance and the drive usage is less than reported for the 8 gig models.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by tluyben2 »

Spartan-S63 wrote: post #152
binbag wrote: post #131

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I'm a surface pro user. Why does Apple not just put macos on the iPad and then it can go head to head for my business? The comment above said it's not as easy as just sticking macos on them. Why? (Obviously the answer could be they simply don't want to take on that market, but technically I don't see the barrier.)

Biggest reason is that macOS is designed as a pointer interface and iPadOS/iOS is designed as a touch interface. You could argue that with the Magic Keyboard and Trackpad, the iPad is well suited for pointer input and I wouldn't disagree. However, macOS with touch as an input option would be atrocious, in my view. Rather than opening the door for touch input on macOS, they should bring iPadOS closer to a desktop-clas…

It could switch maybe? If you use the magic keyboard it switches to Mac OS and otherwise ipados? But yes, iPados with proper multitasking and allowing development apps locally would be a step in the right direction IMHO.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by breakfastduck »

swiley wrote: post #155
throwawayboise wrote: post #136

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> Try cloning and building even a moderate project from github on iSH on the latest iThing with Apple silicon OK but you are describing something that 99.8% of iThing owners will never do.

sharing and building code is an important aspect of computing and making computers fundamental to people's lives while working to make them difficult to understand is very wrong. They don;t do it partly because it's so unpleasant .

You're just not living in the real world.

My mum is never going to care about being able to compile a repo from github on her ipad. Neither are 90%+ of the userbase. The developers interested in the platform use a mac.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by staticfloat »

rvz wrote: post #193
ttul wrote: post #88

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This was indeed one of Apple's best moves ever. I've been happily using the M1 MacBook Air. So long as you steer clear of heavy apps that aren't M1-optimized, the battery life is insane and the device seems to make use of the high performance cores, which really scream. I am confident that the iMac will take advantage of that huge wedge of metal to dissipate heat even better than the laptops do. That will allow it to…

From the grandparent comment: > I have never been happier with a laptop than this first generation M1 MBP. I always skip the first generation of any Apple product. The M1 adoption cycle was infested with hype and was somewhat a hacky process, especially for the developer software ecosystem, and it is still immature, un-optimised and still not ready. You still can't even use two monitors on the M1 Macbook Air simultan…

In case there's anyone out there with an M1 MBP that desperately wants multiple monitors, if you use a DisplayLink compatible external dock, something about the alternate driver that such a dock uses allows for multiple monitors. I personally use the Dell D6000 to run three external displays in addition to the built-in display off of my M1 MBP and it works quite well. You can see a list of DisplayLink docking stations here [0].

[0] https://www.displaylink.com/products/universal-docking-stati...

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by yellowapple »

pjmlp wrote: post #302
filleduchaos wrote: post #246

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Haven't you heard? Programming is the only "pro" or performance-intensive thing that exists. I don't even understand why programmers are always so up in arms about devices like the iPad. Why on earth does one want to program on a handheld touchscreen device anyway? I have zero expectations for that, much like I have zero expectations for the laptop I do program on to be a good drawing device.

Don't forget only UNIX guys are programmers, the rest of us using XCode and similar tooling are just muggles.

Well yeah, you are. We real programmers program by fabricating our own NMOS transistors and wiring them together by hand.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by indymike »

Spartan-S63 wrote: post #152
binbag wrote: post #131

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I'm a surface pro user. Why does Apple not just put macos on the iPad and then it can go head to head for my business? The comment above said it's not as easy as just sticking macos on them. Why? (Obviously the answer could be they simply don't want to take on that market, but technically I don't see the barrier.)

Biggest reason is that macOS is designed as a pointer interface and iPadOS/iOS is designed as a touch interface. You could argue that with the Magic Keyboard and Trackpad, the iPad is well suited for pointer input and I wouldn't disagree. However, macOS with touch as an input option would be atrocious, in my view. Rather than opening the door for touch input on macOS, they should bring iPadOS closer to a desktop-clas…

I have a Dell XPS-15 laptop. 15" 4K touchscreen/tablet. It is fantastic. Gnome, KDE, Windows all work fine with the touch screen and even active stylus. Come to think of it, MacOS has fantastic support for Wacom tablets, so I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be a terrible experience with the same kind of display that my Dell has.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by xxandroxygen »

koboll wrote: post #360
samatman wrote: post #304

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Things I do on an iPad, ranked by how unlikely I am to do them on another computer: - Draw. This is the big one. I'm no fine artist, but I do a bit of calligraphy now and then, and Procreate is amazing. - Make memes. It might not be more "productive" to caption funny pictures on my iPad than it would be to do it on desktop, but it's more fun. It feels more natural to manipulate images on a tablet. - Read PDFs. the 12…

>- Draw. This is the big one. I'm no fine artist, but I do a bit of calligraphy now and then, and Procreate is amazing. Same, and this is how the iPad really shines, except for one huge drawback: limited RAM means I either have to reduce my art to sub-4k quality or limit it to 30-ish layers. Both options suck. It was very disappointing to see no mention of RAM anywhere in this announcement. Maybe for some application…

Wait there was a mention of RAM today - up to 16Gb!

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by dhagz »

ideamotor wrote: post #159
boardwaalk wrote: post #140

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Yeah, I saw this announcement and was thinking, “Why do I need more power?” coming from a 2018 iPad Pro. All this power is cool , but, the design of iPadOS is just not conducive to me wanting to get anything done on it. I know that’s ambiguous and hand wavey. Part of it is certainly the multitasking. Part of it is the keyboard. Part of it is no local Unix or build tools or good code editor. Yeah, I can SSH into anoth…

Apple should let users alternate between iOS and macOS on this device. They should also enable touch on the iMac and let users run iOS on that as well.

Give it like, five more years.

Big Sur already takes a lot of design cues from iOS - they're prepping the merge. They're just making sure the frog doesn't realize the pot is starting to boil.

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