Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by rconti » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 9:01 PM UTC

crooked-v wrote: post #255

AlphaWeaver wrote: post #131

Something that might be being overlooked - it looks like this supports pairing Xbox One controllers that use Xbox Wireless! This is a different standard than Bluetooth and should enable everyone who has Xbox controllers to easily use them in Apple Arcade. Impressive!

All Xbox controllers from the release of the Xbox One S (2016) and later have Bluetooth included. I'm pretty sure the ATV doesn't have any support for the MS-specific protocol, just the Bluetooth functionality.

How do I know which I have? I just bought an XBox One controller to use with my gaming PC, but I'm not much of a gamer (hence why I never had one before). It came with a dongle which I assume is RF, which I prefer to Bluetooth on Windows. I'm wondering if my controller ALSO supports bluetooth? Or if it's either/or?

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by nikisweeting » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 9:03 PM UTC

briandear wrote: post #69

nikisweeting wrote: post #45

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I just want a web browser. I almost returned the thing in a fit of confused sadness when I found out it has no browser.

With airplay, it’s easy.

Nah it's garbage, I want to put something on the TV on its own and I want to use my phone for other stuff, not be forced to have the same thing on both screens.

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by larusso » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 9:04 PM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #122

softwaredoug wrote: post #105

I'm happy that they ditched the old, confusing 'touch' Siri remote for a traditional four button (up/down/left/right) one. The old Siri remote was pretty frustrating. I know some people love it, but there's so many ways it didn't. work well: 1. You breath on the thing, and it does something. It's extremely sensitive 2. It's really hard to fast fwd/rewind just a little bit. Its good at scrubbing through a whole movie,…

I'm always a little surprised when people talk about the Apple TV remote, since I always just use my phone as the remote, and assume that everyone else would too; you always have your phone and often don't have the remote on-hand.

I use a Logitech harmony the last 12 years (different models) and hate to use my phone other than entering text. I tried multiple times to use my iPhone but hate it so much. Also my Harmony has macros to switch to different activities. There is an app for the phone as well. But that gets really frustrating. At least for me.

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by cruano » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 9:06 PM UTC

duhi88 wrote: post #211

iwasakabukiman wrote: post #194

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It can do 120 FPS, which is considered “high frame rate” for televisions. 60 FPS is generally considered standard.

What content is available over 60fps? I don't think they ever released The Hobbit in 48fps, and that's the only movie I'm aware of that was filmed with higher fps. Is this just for games?

All Formula 1 races are streamed at 60fps, and there's also iPhone-recorded videos

But yeah, not much over 60

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by jpdaigle » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 9:08 PM UTC

No dual bluetooth.

For some reason, the current crop of streaming devices all fail the use case of: 2 people want to watch a movie on headphones, without waking the kids. The current solution to this is airpods, where each person gets either the left or right ear. If there's one thing a premium device that costs twice what everything else does could do to differentiate itself, it would be supporting bluetooth pairing to multiple headphones at once.

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by tlb » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 9:12 PM UTC

jpdaigle wrote: post #275

No dual bluetooth. For some reason, the current crop of streaming devices all fail the use case of: 2 people want to watch a movie on headphones, without waking the kids. The current solution to this is airpods, where each person gets either the left or right ear. If there's one thing a premium device that costs twice what everything else does could do to differentiate itself, it would be supporting bluetooth pairing…

They claim otherwise: "Audio Sharing lets you connect two sets of AirPods to your Apple TV 4K" [https://www.apple.com/apple-tv-4k/]

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by kingsuper20 » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 9:16 PM UTC

nostromo wrote: post #189

baby-yoda wrote: post #114

This is by far the least “Apple” product IMO. I hate that I can’t remove stock apps and I hate that I’m being sold to every second I’m in the UI. It’s so blatant. I paid for the box - I just want to use it for AirPlay and a small selection of apps I download, that’s all. Yet Apple treats it as a giant digital billboard in our living rooms.

I get it, but it's still a million times better than the competition. My Samsung TV showed me banner ads before I disconnected it from the internet.

I have a Shield TV and can't say that I've ever seen an ad outside of youtube.

Kind of a cool box. I wonder if anyone is working on a Linux port.

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by evo_9 » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 9:16 PM UTC

ping_pong wrote: post #22

As a current AppleTV 4K owner, I have no idea how any of this is different from the previous version. I don't any any discernible difference. I already have HDR, Dolby Atmos, etc. What I really want is the ability to make my remote control beep so I can find it. That's literally the only feature that I want at this point.

If you have an iOS device you can control your AppleTV from the TV Remote. I didn't notice this until recently and I never use the physical remote now. When you are prompted to type you can use your iOS device to type in text. Very handy.

You can also control your AppleTV via Siri, but that's a bit more hit/miss depending on what you ask of course.

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Post by maxidog » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 9:16 PM UTC

anderber wrote: post #238

tptacek wrote: post #226

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I forgot all about text inputs! With the actual remote, You have to fumble with that letter-at-a-time selector. I’m even more surprised anyone bothers with the physical remote.

You can use a physical remote without looking at it and that's very hard to do with a smartphone. You also have to constantly unlock it to get back to the remote app if it shuts down. I love the Roku remote, it works so well and the physical buttons are very satisfying.

Actually it goes straight back to the Apple TV remote without having to unlock. Not sure what the time limit is but it works after the device has gone to sleep and otherwise locked itself.

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Post by tshaddox » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 9:16 PM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #200

tshaddox wrote: post #195

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I generally want any member of the viewing party to be able to hit the pause button when they want to say something or step away for a moment. I also like being able to instantly hit a button in the dark purely with muscle memory. A TV remote on the coffee table really can’t be beat.

The iOS TV remote makes it easier for people to share control of the TV, not harder.

How can I give guests control of my TV via their phones? As far as I know, that can’t be done automatically with iPhones, let alone people who don’t have iPhones.