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Proposed acquisition of ARM Limited by NVIDIA: public interest intervention

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Re: Proposed acquisition of ARM Limited by NVIDIA: public interest intervention

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Could you elaborate? I guess my thinking is similar to if someone wanted to try and buy Intel. The U.S. would probably stop it on national security grounds. I hope that makes sense - at least where I was trying to go with that comment. Maybe it's incorrect or not well thought out but I'd at least like to make my point clear :)

I thought you wanted to say that they wanted to block it, but had no solid reason, so picked "easiest" route and blocked it on national security grounds

That is what I wanted to say. Apologize for any confusion. I guess I didn't understand your comment. Were you trying to say that the U.S. and Taiwan could do it so why not the U.K.? If so, yea I agree with you.

Re: Proposed acquisition of ARM Limited by NVIDIA: public interest intervention

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https://www.wearethemighty.com/mighty-history/ussr-won-jet-e...

Thanks!

I had the same reaction, so just did some searching. Definitely seems sketchy, but stranger things have happened.

Re: Proposed acquisition of ARM Limited by NVIDIA: public interest intervention

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Because then people would ignore their IP rules. Which would probably be pretty devastating for high profile things like Silicon Valley and Hollywood.

People already do ignore US IP law. It's pretty much entirely ignored by the single other meaningful competitor in the world: China.

And the US is free is ignore Chinese IP if it wants to. But thats not what what we are talking about. This is UK IP.

Re: Proposed acquisition of ARM Limited by NVIDIA: public interest intervention

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People already do ignore US IP law. It's pretty much entirely ignored by the single other meaningful competitor in the world: China.

And the US is free is ignore Chinese IP if it wants to. But thats not what what we are talking about. This is UK IP.

The UK's production capabilities are more or less irrelevant. Why not just ignore it? It's not like they're going to suddenly become some massive economic force.

Re: Proposed acquisition of ARM Limited by NVIDIA: public interest intervention

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Is that how it would be? So, like AMD and ATi? Damn, that's kind of sad.

Who can say? But the British government has experience, from the Kraft purchase of Cadbury, that even if the buyers promise to keep jobs in the UK and product quality high, once the deal goes through they can renege on those promises instantly with no negative consequences.

It's always funny when economic policy is called "national security". Really makes you think.

Re: Proposed acquisition of ARM Limited by NVIDIA: public interest intervention

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ARM is a strategic company and unique in europe. it is UK crown jewel. Selling it to Nvidia is like USA selling Google to Huawei.

ARM was already sold to Softbank, a Japanese company. I don't think being American vs Japanese changes the European identity of the company,

softbank is not a chipmaker and they don't understand what they have. just look at wework.

NVIDIA however clearly know that ARM represent market domination and would be a national strategic asset.

Re: Proposed acquisition of ARM Limited by NVIDIA: public interest intervention

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This reminds of the analyst who predicted AMD’s acquisition of ATI would kill off Intel. Nothing of the sort happened. If a chip supplier like Nvidia buys ARM and uses its products, it will ultimately have an outsize say over ARM’s product (actually IP) roadmaps. That’s not going to make ARM’s current customers happy. Nvidia want to diversify- that’s why they’ve targeted ARM. They don’t need the technology- it’s read…

> why buy ARM and almost certainly damage the ARM business model which is as an independent processor IP provider? That's the 40 billion dollar question, isn't it. Why are they doing this? I don't know, I guess they know something that I don't. What do you know that we don't ? :D > For ARM, it’s a strategic disaster IMV. Better to stay independent! How do you arrive at this conclusion? For all we know NVIDIA might (1…

You have not given a single strategic imperative for the Nvidia acquisition. They have full access to the IP.

The real issue here is Nvidia are hugely overvalued thanks to the vagaries of the US tech stock market and the ‘irrational exuberance’ that surrounds it. Just a short while ago, Tesla was valued at over $800 billion, Apple has topped a trillion and now Nvidia on $16 billion sales at >$300 billion. As a result that have a while loymtvof stock value burning a hole in their pocket and are looking for something to buy. Unfortunately, ARM is in the frame.

When you make an acquisition, you have to ask whether it positions the combined business uniquely, will is cannibalise existing business (in this case almost certainly because ARM’s great appeal besides its IP and eco-system is that it is independent), will it move the stock price in the right direction, will it improve EBIT, what are the synergies etc etc. A typical M&A will invoke dozens of considerations like this.

More investment into ARM? They own the mobile phone space - Apple, Samsung and almost every other brand (many in China where I worked for a few years). They’ve seen off Microchip in the general purpose 32 bit uC space and dominate IoT applications, Bluetooth etc.

There’s nothing stopping Nvidia copying the existing ARM model right now. They don’t need to buy ARM to do that.

Nvidia stock price will moderate down (as will all semiconductor companies in the coming months as the chip shortages abate) and with it a more realistic valuation.

(What do I know? Been involved in a few M&A’s. ;) )

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