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Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by __turbobrew__ »

RobLach wrote: post #169
etempleton wrote: post #127

I just don’t see what Discord’s path towards profitability is. Are they going to try to start an online store again? Sell enough Nitro subs? I think they are playing hard ball for a better acquisition deal, but they risk being irrelevant before ever getting a better deal.

Note: Discord has 14x more active users than Slack. Discord has a technology and feature superset over Slack. The Discord audience is becoming the professional audience just about right now.

Discord needs threads before I would even consider using it as a slack replacement.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by cdelsolar »

RobLach wrote: post #169
etempleton wrote: post #127

I just don’t see what Discord’s path towards profitability is. Are they going to try to start an online store again? Sell enough Nitro subs? I think they are playing hard ball for a better acquisition deal, but they risk being irrelevant before ever getting a better deal.

Note: Discord has 14x more active users than Slack. Discord has a technology and feature superset over Slack. The Discord audience is becoming the professional audience just about right now.

yeah I honestly like Discord way more than Slack.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by MawKKe »

3PS wrote: post #141
Jonovono wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you feel is missing from Discord?

Personally, I wish the desktop client was a bit more lightweight. I understand why they went with Electron, and I don't think they could have afforded their speed of iterated development as a small company otherwise, but I still wish their app was a bit lighter on my laptop. I'm especially disappointed that cordless [1], a very usable third-party terminal-based client for Discord, was banned due to a ToS violation. S…

Similiar issue with the browser client. I observed it eating away 40% cpu doing...nothing? I can't do anything else with my laptop If I want to be heard or understood by others

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by poidos »

brundolf wrote: post #181
xyhopguy wrote: post #133

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'discord professional' seems like pretty low hanging fruit and an obvious upgrade over slack + zoom

It would risk chasing off their core market, even if it were just a branding pivot

It would probably have to be a separate application with the same features and internals to really work.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by tapland »

xboxnolifes wrote: post #185
ev0lv wrote: post #145

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TeamSpeak is still used heavily in the gaming community. Discord sucks when you have 50 people in the same voice chat.

I agree, though discord recently has put out updates to improve audio quality in those instances. That being said, I would argue that any voice chat with more than 10, maybe 20, active people talking is going to be nearly unusable. Not due to audio quality.

It's mostly total lack of voice normalization killing it.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by novok »

brundolf wrote: post #181
xyhopguy wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

'discord professional' seems like pretty low hanging fruit and an obvious upgrade over slack + zoom

It would risk chasing off their core market, even if it were just a branding pivot

I think discord biz edition was obvious for a long time, and they've steadfastly refused to do it for that amount of time too.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by stdgy »

xyhopguy wrote: post #133
etempleton wrote: post #127

I just don’t see what Discord’s path towards profitability is. Are they going to try to start an online store again? Sell enough Nitro subs? I think they are playing hard ball for a better acquisition deal, but they risk being irrelevant before ever getting a better deal.

'discord professional' seems like pretty low hanging fruit and an obvious upgrade over slack + zoom

Absolutely. I'd kill to be able to use Discord for work. It's just silly how much better it is than Teams, Zoom, WebEx, etc.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by Topgamer7 »

ripdog wrote: post #186
superkuh wrote: post #171

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The employees and their contractors and related at Discord corporate can see your IP address too and much more. Luckily it won't be Microsoft owning it as they could correlate against their software empire too. But Discord does have significant profit motive to collect information about you. In fact, their entire proprietary protocol, client, and restriction of clients is based around ensuring this.

He wasn't talking about mass data collection used to sell advertising, he was talking about a the admin of a server with maybe a dozen users having access to his IP, which potentially could be used for DDOS or geolocation. The kind of 'data collection' which could have visible impacts upon his life.

Or someone with knowledge could port scan you and actually attack you to gain a foothold in your network.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by kemitche »

toolz wrote: post #121
echelon wrote: post #108

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My username and favorite aliases were taken. Discord allows anyone to share the same username. It appends a nearly invisible hash to disambiguate, and you can even change it. Discord does usernames right.

hmm, so on public discord servers if someone copies my nickname and pretends to be me, someone might not easily notice? Seems like a pretty readily used vulnerability. I remember back in high school on AIM someone made a username very similar to mine and said some nasty things to a girl I was talking to - she told me to stop talking to her and I didn't figure out why until years later. I imagine the same exploit coul…

I'd argue the opposite - it's harder to get away with impersonation.

In the AIM situation, users go in "knowing" that usernames are unique, so if you see a message from user abc123, you "know" it's that person. Which means user abcl23 ("el" instead of "one") can impersonate the real user.

In Discord situations, (1) the user is more likely to know that usernames can be reused, since they weren't required to make a unique one to start - so they can be more cautious of impersonation attempts, and more importantly (2) the Discord devs know names can be reused/abused, and can build better mitigations if they so choose to (like e.g. putting a disclaimer at the top of any message from a user you've never contacted before, etc.)

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by MawKKe »

rurp wrote: post #174
Jonovono wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you feel is missing from Discord?

Their treatment of Linux is pretty terrible, where they block you from even launching the app after a minor update until you go download and install the new .deb file. I've had many times where I went to jump onto a quick Discord chat only to have to stop and jump through those hoops.

To be fair, the client forces you to upgrade on windows too, although automatically. Which in windows-land is business as usual...
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