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So do these things run Xcode and Terminal, or not?

I haven't used it, but I've heard of others using Blink Shell [1] with Mosh [2] very effectively. [1] https://blink.sh/ [2] https://mosh.org/

I _love_ Blink Shell on my iPad – it's great for connecting to other machines, and I've had some success setting up a dev environment in EC2. but what I really want is for my iPad to be a complete development environment.

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Personally, if they make it a general-purpose computer, I'll be eagerly waiting for them or someone else to create the next iPad. It's already gone too far that way, IMO—I like it as a slab of smart glass that can become, entirely, a whole bunch of different, separate, specific tools, not as yet another complex, generic, multi-tasking computer. In that respect, it's mostly been going downhill since iOS 6, IMO, as far…

Why can't it let you just choose which experience you want?

I like it better if 100% of the software on the device operates under the same constraints, so the developer of some app that I really need/want can't decide "no, you need to be in desktop-alike mode for this to run, because I just don't feel like dealing with tablet mode". It's basically the same problem as allowing multiple app stores, in that it'd fragment the experience and leave me having to choose between "do what the developer of this app wanted, which isn't what I wanted" and "don't have the app". I prefer that everyone has to deliver software the same way, under the same constraints, for predictability and user control of their environment (that is, I want the device to work like a traditional tablet, period, so I prefer that developers have to treat it that way, as it results in the device always working the way I want it to, for all software that runs on it)

And in fact, I can currently choose the experience I want if I decide I want a typical multitasking desktop—by putting down the iPad and going over to a Mac (or Linux, or Windows, or FreeBSD machine, or whatever). Or, to extend the "I like a tablet that becomes things, modally" way of thinking about it, by putting the iPad in Remote Desktop mode and connecting over VNC or SSH or RDP to a traditional desktop or server.

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I believe this is the first time has ever advertised RAM in an iPad or iPhone.

Also the first time they shipped different amounts of ram stratified by storage choice.

They did do it before, but it wasn't advertised.

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Productivity takes many shapes and forms. The use cases highlighted in the video were about capturing video podcasts, rendering previews in the field, etc. you can be productive without fitting into the traditional mold of productive computing. Thats what ipad is after.

ipad's limitations are arbitrary and have no strong reason to exist. I've been an apple fan for years, and bought my first PC in nearly 20 years recently because I shouldn't have to buy two very expensive apple devices (a mac, and an ipad) to cover all of my use cases.

It’s been gratifying to see I’m not the only one with these issues! That said, lineage wise the limitations and issues aren’t arbitrary - iPadOS is basically a slightly upsized clone of iOS, and just like you wouldn’t be using your phone for precision data/pointing (or if you were it wouldn’t be as buy a deal, because you’d just be using a finger/thumb and not reaching across a keyboard), the original nature of iPad interactions are similar.

Obviously seeing some improvements, but for instance copying 50GB of high precision photos (without potentially mangling them/importing them because it’s a dataset not a bunch of snapshots!) is a terrible experience in iPadOS - and a trivial exercise in every laptop/pc OS out there.

They’ve got a long way to go, unfortunately, especially for enterprise use cases. The hardware really has potential though!

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To me, it doesn't matter how powerful the iPad is if the software experience is subpar. Multitasking is cumbrous enough that it might as well not exist, multi-display setups can only mirror at a fixed aspect ratio, it lacks multiple user profiles requiring a family to be under a single user, and the few apps that take advantage of the keyboard/trackpad are nowhere similar to their desktop counterparts. Take Excel for…

Yeah, I saw this announcement and was thinking, “Why do I need more power?” coming from a 2018 iPad Pro. All this power is cool , but, the design of iPadOS is just not conducive to me wanting to get anything done on it. I know that’s ambiguous and hand wavey. Part of it is certainly the multitasking. Part of it is the keyboard. Part of it is no local Unix or build tools or good code editor. Yeah, I can SSH into anoth…

I view Apple devices as devices for developers AND artists. Sometimes artists are better served.

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The macbook air screen is ok, its webcam is horrible, it doesn't have a touch screen, so you can't use it as a "digital blackboard" for remote work, and it can't use multiple monitors. The iPad has a great front camera, great screen, great touch screen and Apple Pen, yet is software-handicapped to prevent professional use. I guess Apples' goal is for people to buy both, but I've been on the market for a new "work dev…

> Also the macbook air can only drive 1 external monitor. That's the limitation of the GPU in the current-gen M1. It has two display encoders, one of them is connected to eDP for the internal display - except for the M1, which doesn't have an internal display, so it can be wired to external connector. So unless they redid this part, this iPad and the new iMac will have the same limitation.

Tech specs for both the iPad Pro and the iMac show this still is the case.

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If you have been passively reading about M1 and haven’t had the chance to upgrade your Air or MBP, just know it’s the real deal. I have never been happier with a laptop than this first generation M1 MBP. A little wild to think in — poof! — a single year we have gone to the Air, Mac Book Pro, iPad, and iMac sharing the SAME chip! Amazing, can’t wait for the new iPhone...

I sold my nearly maxed out 16" MacBook Pro for an M1 Air. I hated the 16" with a passion, but the Air is my favourite computer I've ever owned.

It sounds like a criticism, but the best thing about it is that it gives me absolutely no cause to ever think about it. I don't get irritated by it being burning hot and loud as hell because it's always cool and silent. I don't have to worry about battery life because it just lasts all day. I don't constantly bump stuff on the Touch Bar because it has actual function keys.

It just gets the hell out of the way and lets me do my job. That would be enough, but it's also drastically faster than the 16" at literally everything I do day-to-day, which is nice.

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Yeah, I saw this announcement and was thinking, “Why do I need more power?” coming from a 2018 iPad Pro. All this power is cool , but, the design of iPadOS is just not conducive to me wanting to get anything done on it. I know that’s ambiguous and hand wavey. Part of it is certainly the multitasking. Part of it is the keyboard. Part of it is no local Unix or build tools or good code editor. Yeah, I can SSH into anoth…

Apple should let users alternate between iOS and macOS on this device. They should also enable touch on the iMac and let users run iOS on that as well.

If Apple allowed macOS on the iPad, I wonder if they’d allow Rosetta?

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> "...gesture-like latencies in between to get it to work." i hate that animations on ios are i/o blocking. every single time i have to enter my passcode, it misses at least one if not two of my keypresses, which means i have to erase the whole thing and do it more slowly since the missing keypresses are essentially random (not just the final one or two). another related annoyance is alert popups that occur more than…

Yes, this is why the default iPhone calculator app is completely useless. These forced animations make tasks take the same amount of time regardless of how fast the hardware gets. I would love to be able to turn off all animations in iphone/ipad UIs.

right. it's even more frustrating in light of the amazing advances in parallel processing for these devices over the years, which are essentially being ignored. at the very least, they could offload the animation to secondary threads/processes and unblock the i/o, which would allow the keypresses to be registered correctly even as you wait for the UI to catch up. instead, you're forced to wait for the animation to finish before registering the next input.

the computer should serve the whims of the user, not the other way around.

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ipad's limitations are arbitrary and have no strong reason to exist. I've been an apple fan for years, and bought my first PC in nearly 20 years recently because I shouldn't have to buy two very expensive apple devices (a mac, and an ipad) to cover all of my use cases.

It’s been gratifying to see I’m not the only one with these issues! That said, lineage wise the limitations and issues aren’t arbitrary - iPadOS is basically a slightly upsized clone of iOS, and just like you wouldn’t be using your phone for precision data/pointing (or if you were it wouldn’t be as buy a deal, because you’d just be using a finger/thumb and not reaching across a keyboard), the original nature of iPad…

yeah, I love the limitations in ios for my phone, but not for my computer!
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