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Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

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Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

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Do Spotify actually manage to sell any significant number of subscriptions due to podcasts? Personally when ever I hear about an interesting podcast, and it's followed by "available on Spotify/Podimo, whatever", my reaction is always: Okay, never mind then. There are so many great podcasts on the open web. Those available on platforms like Spotify always seems to be people with existing celebrity status trying to "ca…

No, but they could lose subscribers due to Podcasts. See, I pay for Spotify because of their playlists. Playlists have nothing to do with podcasts. I listen to my podcasts using a different app. Yet Spotify keeps throwing its podcasts in my face. Spotify is not good at podcasts. That's why I use a different app for that. I'm getting tired of scrolling past all the podcast spam in my Spotify UI, and yet Spotify provid…

That is why I use YT Music. Podcasts are in a different Google realm (Google podcasts), and get no podspaming. I also find spotify too in your face in general, like an over eager salesman.

Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

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Do Spotify actually manage to sell any significant number of subscriptions due to podcasts? Personally when ever I hear about an interesting podcast, and it's followed by "available on Spotify/Podimo, whatever", my reaction is always: Okay, never mind then. There are so many great podcasts on the open web. Those available on platforms like Spotify always seems to be people with existing celebrity status trying to "ca…

> Personally when ever I hear about an interesting podcast, and it's followed by "available on Spotify/Podimo, whatever", my reaction is always: Okay, never mind then.

Every time I hear that (and I want to check it out), I do so in Pocket Casts, my fav app (first on Android, then on iOS). I know there are probably podcasts that are _only_ on Spotify, but I haven't tripped over one yet.

Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

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Not very related... The reason I canceled Spotify Account is because I couldn’t downvote songs in a playlist. The music suggestions for some artists were horrible, and I couldn’t opt out of them.

What's losing my interest more and more is that their music recommendations are terrible, rarely match my taste... And, uh, I wish there was an easier way for me to just browse music by category. I just want to see all the new releases under electronic music and browse through them quickly. I don't need to be spoon-fed things as part of "discover weekly". Also, the Spotify Chromecast integration is utter shit. It has…

YT Music has it all, categories, easy library listening, no podspaming, Chromecast. Spotify is like a salesman who has been drinking too much coffee.

Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

#194
post #192

Do Spotify actually manage to sell any significant number of subscriptions due to podcasts? Personally when ever I hear about an interesting podcast, and it's followed by "available on Spotify/Podimo, whatever", my reaction is always: Okay, never mind then. There are so many great podcasts on the open web. Those available on platforms like Spotify always seems to be people with existing celebrity status trying to "ca…

> Personally when ever I hear about an interesting podcast, and it's followed by "available on Spotify/Podimo, whatever", my reaction is always: Okay, never mind then. Every time I hear that (and I want to check it out), I do so in Pocket Casts, my fav app (first on Android, then on iOS). I know there are probably podcasts that are _only_ on Spotify, but I haven't tripped over one yet.

OT but AntennaPod is amazing, and open source. I switched from Pocket Casts and it's amazing.

Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

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I recently gave Spotify a try for about 8 months but just switched back to Apple Music. My reason for switching back had nothing to do with podcasts, it was simply Spotify's terrible interface that makes it impossible to just browse all the music in your library . But I had also started to notice podcasts infiltrating UI that used to be only music playlists. A few times I even mistakenly clicked on a podcast thinking…

I dont think Spotify cares about the 0.1% of users that bring their own MP3s. It's a shrinking market. The growth is all the people who never even heard of an EmPeaThree. I think back when I ripped my 350+ CDs to FLAC. In retrospect, it wasn't worth it.

Nah, should have kept a What.CD acct or its successors.

Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

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post #192

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> Personally when ever I hear about an interesting podcast, and it's followed by "available on Spotify/Podimo, whatever", my reaction is always: Okay, never mind then. Every time I hear that (and I want to check it out), I do so in Pocket Casts, my fav app (first on Android, then on iOS). I know there are probably podcasts that are _only_ on Spotify, but I haven't tripped over one yet.

OT but AntennaPod is amazing, and open source. I switched from Pocket Casts and it's amazing.

AntennaPod is unfortunately quite lacking if you like to listen to "story" podcasts where you want to listen old -> new.

Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

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>I liked JRE, but even as a Spotify user, I don't listen to him anymore. I used this long podcasts to fall asleep to but had to stop now with spotify. I cast it to a google home mini and set the volume to pretty low, so I just can hear what they say pretty much, but at a random point spotify stops it and plays an ad at volume level 9000+ and doesn't resume play. How bad isn't that? Oh and Joe is getting less likeable…

> Joe is getting less likeable lately... Agreed - he always had a noticeable tilt on issues but lately it seems to be all about scoring sick dunks on SJW's. I was also surprised how little prep he apparently does before podcasts. During the latest Elon Musk episode he learned on-air that the reusable rockets land propulsively (as opposed to using parachutes or otherwise). It's odd to have possibly the richest man in…

Haha yes! How could he not have seen the ring of fire video and still be Elons number one fan???

Could we confirm parallel universes now? Because the one Joe lives in is different. Think he lost touch. Also noticed him being more of a dick lately, the "I'm a nice person"-Joe is off in yet another universe doing something else...

Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

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This is exactly why the co-inventor of podcasting, Adam Curry, launched the "Podcasting 2.0" initiative last year: https://podnews.net/update/podcast-index-open-directory

I also like his "value for value" model:

https://www.entrepreneurability.nl/2020/12/04/the-emergence-...

Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

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Can you give me an example of something Joe Rogan has said that you think a tech employer would fire an employee for? (Seriously asking, I don't listen to Rogan.)

He's elevated and normalized white ethno-fascist voices. He is subtly transphobic. I used to listen to him constantly when I was younger but I find him to be a huge chungus these days. I think maybe its that I have changed more than his podcast has but I'm not sure.

I meant like, a quote. or an episode. Some raw data I can listen to, not just your conclusion.

Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

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I've heard Joe Rogan jokingly refered to as "Oprah for middle aged white dudes".

If only he were Oprah. More like "Gwyneth Paltrow for bros".

Except Gwyneth and friends are emulating Rogan’s ‘model’ and applying it to the female audience. Rogan and his style of broadcasting were around for almost a decade before Goop decided to start podcasting & make a TV show. Pretty smart on their part honestly. When I saw the Netflix show, all I could think of is ‘This is JRE for women’. Even using some of the same guests, and topics Joe had already popularized.
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