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post #108

What I really want to see is the AppleTV turn into a video conferencing system. Almost everything is there now. Just need the camera (rumor was some Home Pod device may have one?) Let it run Zoom/Google Meets.

Or facetime perhaps? I agree, it drives me nuts that I can't hook a camera to this, such a missed opportunity during the panedmic.

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post #129

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It uses HDMI ARC but it's pretty flaky from the iPhone in my experience. Works more consistently with the remote itself. No idea why.

I'm pretty certain that the ATV remote beams good old fashioned infrared signals to change the volume on your TV/soundbar/receiver directly without involving the ATV itself.

The Apple TV remote doesn't emit infrared. The Apple TV does that itself! (This means that "learned" remote commands work even if you're controlling the Apple TV with your phone, or with a Bluetooth controller.)

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This is by far the least “Apple” product IMO. I hate that I can’t remove stock apps and I hate that I’m being sold to every second I’m in the UI. It’s so blatant. I paid for the box - I just want to use it for AirPlay and a small selection of apps I download, that’s all. Yet Apple treats it as a giant digital billboard in our living rooms.

It depends which apps you have in the menu bar. Disney, Netflix, Apple, & Plex, they show continue playing shortcuts. Amazon Prime shows promo ads, so I moved it to the right so I never see them.

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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This is by far the least “Apple” product IMO. I hate that I can’t remove stock apps and I hate that I’m being sold to every second I’m in the UI. It’s so blatant. I paid for the box - I just want to use it for AirPlay and a small selection of apps I download, that’s all. Yet Apple treats it as a giant digital billboard in our living rooms.

I get it, but it's still a million times better than the competition. My Samsung TV showed me banner ads before I disconnected it from the internet.

I use a roku and never feel this way. The only thing I could think of as an "ad" is on the screensaver, there are movies that float by, but I'm almost never looking at the screensaver anyway.

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post #184

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The old ATV 4k model already supports 4k at 60fps. The only improvement is that it supports HDR 4k content at 60 fps. From the old spec page [0]: H.264/HEVC SDR video up to 2160p, 60 fps, Main/Main 10 profile HEVC Dolby Vision (Profile 5)/HDR10 (Main 10 profile) up to 2160p And the new spec page [1]: H.264/HEVC SDR video up to 2160p, 60 fps, Main/Main 10 profile HEVC Dolby Vision (Profile 5)/HDR10 (Main 10 profile) u…

It can do 120 FPS, which is considered “high frame rate” for televisions. 60 FPS is generally considered standard.

Can it? The HDMI 2.1 footnote says "Support for up to 4K 60-fps HDR video output", and 120 isn't mentioned anywhere on the spec page.

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I'm always a little surprised when people talk about the Apple TV remote, since I always just use my phone as the remote, and assume that everyone else would too; you always have your phone and often don't have the remote on-hand.

Using a real remote (Apple remotes don’t count) is so much better. There are some things a smartphone is better for, such as entering in passwords. But for regular usage there’s no comparison. Besides, if I just wanted to use my smartphone I would simply stick to my chrome cast devices. If I’m gonna be using the phone to control my entertainment center then the chrome cast provides by far the best interface because y…

I forgot all about text inputs! With the actual remote, You have to fumble with that letter-at-a-time selector. I’m even more surprised anyone bothers with the physical remote.

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post #84

As a current AppleTV 4K owner, I have no idea how any of this is different from the previous version. I don't any any discernible difference. I already have HDR, Dolby Atmos, etc. What I really want is the ability to make my remote control beep so I can find it. That's literally the only feature that I want at this point.

>What I really want is the ability to make my remote control beep so I can find it. That's literally the only feature that I want at this point. Yes. I am trying to Find out if the new Remote has the AirTag feature built in. But since they didn't announce it I am guessing not. Sigh. I thought it was the best use case for AirTag or Precision Location. Edit: Search through the spec and nothing mentioned. God Damn it WH…

My current TV turns on when I turn on the Apple TV. It's probably an option for the HDMI plug, when it senses power to turn on the TV itself.

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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post #84

As a current AppleTV 4K owner, I have no idea how any of this is different from the previous version. I don't any any discernible difference. I already have HDR, Dolby Atmos, etc. What I really want is the ability to make my remote control beep so I can find it. That's literally the only feature that I want at this point.

>What I really want is the ability to make my remote control beep so I can find it. That's literally the only feature that I want at this point. Yes. I am trying to Find out if the new Remote has the AirTag feature built in. But since they didn't announce it I am guessing not. Sigh. I thought it was the best use case for AirTag or Precision Location. Edit: Search through the spec and nothing mentioned. God Damn it WH…

Apple made a huge error not buying Eero and making AppleTV and HomePod devices into zero effort mesh points. They got out of the router business just a couple years too early since it was fully commoditized at the time, but the mesh revolution was just around the corner with a whole new market to conqueror.

Letting Amazon get Eero is one of the few consumer facing misses Apple has made in the last few years (the keyboard debacle being the other)

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

#229

Honestly speaking, the problem with Apple TV is that chips like A12 are such a overkill for TV box use cases. I recently purchased a $30 Roku and find it has almost 99% of the features that an Apple TV would have (including airplay2). Yes, Apple TV would have better color, visual quality, etc, but that's way into the realm of dismissed return for the investment IMHO.

I bought the Apple TV 4K specifically for the fast SoC.

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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post #84

As a current AppleTV 4K owner, I have no idea how any of this is different from the previous version. I don't any any discernible difference. I already have HDR, Dolby Atmos, etc. What I really want is the ability to make my remote control beep so I can find it. That's literally the only feature that I want at this point.

>What I really want is the ability to make my remote control beep so I can find it. That's literally the only feature that I want at this point. Yes. I am trying to Find out if the new Remote has the AirTag feature built in. But since they didn't announce it I am guessing not. Sigh. I thought it was the best use case for AirTag or Precision Location. Edit: Search through the spec and nothing mentioned. God Damn it WH…

>Add the $29 to the price of Apple TV 4K or Remote if they really cared about money.

I'm very happy with my Roku. It has a remote finder/beeper, and was dirt cheap. I looked at Apple TV, but didn't see what it had to offer that would justify $180-$200.

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