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Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by duhi88 »

iwasakabukiman wrote: post #194
varenc wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The old ATV 4k model already supports 4k at 60fps. The only improvement is that it supports HDR 4k content at 60 fps. From the old spec page [0]: H.264/HEVC SDR video up to 2160p, 60 fps, Main/Main 10 profile HEVC Dolby Vision (Profile 5)/HDR10 (Main 10 profile) up to 2160p And the new spec page [1]: H.264/HEVC SDR video up to 2160p, 60 fps, Main/Main 10 profile HEVC Dolby Vision (Profile 5)/HDR10 (Main 10 profile) u…

It can do 120 FPS, which is considered “high frame rate” for televisions. 60 FPS is generally considered standard.

What content is available over 60fps? I don't think they ever released The Hobbit in 48fps, and that's the only movie I'm aware of that was filmed with higher fps.

Is this just for games?

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Post by fgblanch »

I'm wondering how long it will take to get Mac OS Big Sur running in these new Apple TVs. The Apple Transition kit had an A12Z, Wikipedia says it is a "binned" version of A12 Bionic, therefore both chips have the same ARMv8.3 instruction set. I'm not sure of the performance but theoretically it should be possible to have 200 dollars ARM Macs running with this hardware.

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Post by samgranieri »

I hope the remote is better this time around. Honestly, I'm just using a logitech harmony: https://www.logitech.com/en-us/products/harmony/665-advanced...

When I gave my in-laws my old apple tv (non-4k) that I bought in 2015, I made sure to get them another remote.

I'll look forward to getting this upgrade in a few years. My current apple TV 4k is working just fine

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Post by intrasight »

tshaddox wrote: post #195
tptacek wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm always a little surprised when people talk about the Apple TV remote, since I always just use my phone as the remote, and assume that everyone else would too; you always have your phone and often don't have the remote on-hand.

I generally want any member of the viewing party to be able to hit the pause button when they want to say something or step away for a moment. I also like being able to instantly hit a button in the dark purely with muscle memory. A TV remote on the coffee table really can’t be beat.

You mean yet another remote on the coffee table ;)

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Post by harikb »

tonoto wrote: post #158
harikb wrote: post #35

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I use AirPods just fine with Macs. I also easily switch between Mac and iPhone reliably and easily. What particular annoyances are you talking about?

I recently came over to "Apple"-world after years of listening to all the fanatics/ambassadeurs who proclaims "it just works". I've been using an Apple AIO computer (model Imac 5k) for a couple of years as a web browser, but recently I started the switch from Android eco system and first I bought the "pro" model of their wireless headset just to find out that they worked pretty decently (albeit, overly expensive) as…

I agree there is lot to improve. My issues have been mostly with having the Airpod Pro sit in the case for 1-day+ and then take and find out it hasn't charge one of the pods. Case had charged, but it didn't somehow charge the pod.

However my experience with pairing/connect/disconnect has been better than any other brand I have tried. Taking it from the case to trigger the connect has been absolutely ground breaking. I don't particularly care for the Small size, lack of a neck strap or any of those fancy features.

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Post by dijit »

fgblanch wrote: post #212

I'm wondering how long it will take to get Mac OS Big Sur running in these new Apple TVs. The Apple Transition kit had an A12Z, Wikipedia says it is a "binned" version of A12 Bionic, therefore both chips have the same ARMv8.3 instruction set. I'm not sure of the performance but theoretically it should be possible to have 200 dollars ARM Macs running with this hardware.

I think the bigger problem would be getting access to the boot chain, I very rarely see anything like jailbreaks for these devices (though, I have seen it).

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Post by hh2222 »

softwaredoug wrote: post #105

I'm happy that they ditched the old, confusing 'touch' Siri remote for a traditional four button (up/down/left/right) one. The old Siri remote was pretty frustrating. I know some people love it, but there's so many ways it didn't. work well: 1. You breath on the thing, and it does something. It's extremely sensitive 2. It's really hard to fast fwd/rewind just a little bit. Its good at scrubbing through a whole movie,…

> try to go back 30 seconds with it, it's nearly impossible.

Tip: press the mike button and say "go back 30 seconds" ... or "open netflix" etc.

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Post by alberth »

So is this getting the exact same CPU that was previously in the iPad Pro (that Apple updated today)?

If so, amazing supply chain efficiency to keep this same cpu around but now in a cheaper product.

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by volta83 »

jeromegv wrote: post #192
volta83 wrote: post #168

Apple TV is the worst apple product i've ever owned. Last year, they released a software update that broke YouTube support for like 5-6 months, and once they "fixed" it, they immediately announced it would be removed 3 months later. You can still revert the software update, and YouTube works if you do that. But I'd rather have my money back and buy a different product instead. I consider "YouTube support" kind of cri…

Youtube removed support for the app, it's sad but it is what it is. It's like if an app stops working on your phone because the company no longer wants to support it. https://9to5mac.com/2021/03/04/youtube-no-longer-works-on-th...

Apparently Apple shipped an "update" that partially broke the Youtube app "Pause" feature [1], Apple did not want to revert the patch and decided to wait on Google fixing the Youtube app [1], finally 4 months later apple fixed the issue [1], one month later Google announces that it discontinues the App, 3 months later the app is discontinued.

If you downgrade your Apple TV today, the youtube app still works (I did that a couple of times when it stopped working, but the Apple TV would update itself overnight... until I gave up..).

I bought an Apple TV mainly because it was advertised as being able to play youtube. Apple introduced an update that broke the Youtube App.

I can't really blame Google here. Apple breaks their app, Apple didn't want to fix it, Google got all the burn from users, fixing the App is probably out of their hands if this was a bug introduced by Apple, ... probably not worth it for them.

Either way, I bought this device because it supported Youtube, and now it doesn't because Apple introduced an update that broke youtube.

AFAICT this is all Apple's fault and I wish we would have an EU law that would prevent hardware manufacturers from shipping updates that break their products so that customers are forced to buy new ones.

[1] https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251837222?page=2

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Post by foliveira »

hh2222 wrote: post #217
softwaredoug wrote: post #105

I'm happy that they ditched the old, confusing 'touch' Siri remote for a traditional four button (up/down/left/right) one. The old Siri remote was pretty frustrating. I know some people love it, but there's so many ways it didn't. work well: 1. You breath on the thing, and it does something. It's extremely sensitive 2. It's really hard to fast fwd/rewind just a little bit. Its good at scrubbing through a whole movie,…

> try to go back 30 seconds with it, it's nearly impossible. Tip: press the mike button and say "go back 30 seconds" ... or "open netflix" etc.

Unfortunately the Siri function isn’t available in numerous countries
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