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Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by marrone12 »

volta83 wrote: post #168

Apple TV is the worst apple product i've ever owned. Last year, they released a software update that broke YouTube support for like 5-6 months, and once they "fixed" it, they immediately announced it would be removed 3 months later. You can still revert the software update, and YouTube works if you do that. But I'd rather have my money back and buy a different product instead. I consider "YouTube support" kind of cri…

What is broken with your YT app? Mine works fine on Apple TV 4k, fully updated.

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Post by jeromegv »

volta83 wrote: post #168

Apple TV is the worst apple product i've ever owned. Last year, they released a software update that broke YouTube support for like 5-6 months, and once they "fixed" it, they immediately announced it would be removed 3 months later. You can still revert the software update, and YouTube works if you do that. But I'd rather have my money back and buy a different product instead. I consider "YouTube support" kind of cri…

Youtube removed support for the app, it's sad but it is what it is. It's like if an app stops working on your phone because the company no longer wants to support it. https://9to5mac.com/2021/03/04/youtube-no-longer-works-on-th...

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Post by adrr »

baby-yoda wrote: post #114

This is by far the least “Apple” product IMO. I hate that I can’t remove stock apps and I hate that I’m being sold to every second I’m in the UI. It’s so blatant. I paid for the box - I just want to use it for AirPlay and a small selection of apps I download, that’s all. Yet Apple treats it as a giant digital billboard in our living rooms.

I bought an appletv because it doesn’t pop up ads like other streamers. Only search functionality is where I have issues where it prioritizes apple content over other providers It seems to be a recent change too because search used to work when first got it.

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Post by iwasakabukiman »

varenc wrote: post #184
jhickok wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only thing I care about is that it supports 4k at higher refresh rates.

The old ATV 4k model already supports 4k at 60fps. The only improvement is that it supports HDR 4k content at 60 fps. From the old spec page [0]: H.264/HEVC SDR video up to 2160p, 60 fps, Main/Main 10 profile HEVC Dolby Vision (Profile 5)/HDR10 (Main 10 profile) up to 2160p And the new spec page [1]: H.264/HEVC SDR video up to 2160p, 60 fps, Main/Main 10 profile HEVC Dolby Vision (Profile 5)/HDR10 (Main 10 profile) u…

It can do 120 FPS, which is considered “high frame rate” for televisions. 60 FPS is generally considered standard.

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Post by tshaddox »

tptacek wrote: post #122
softwaredoug wrote: post #105

I'm happy that they ditched the old, confusing 'touch' Siri remote for a traditional four button (up/down/left/right) one. The old Siri remote was pretty frustrating. I know some people love it, but there's so many ways it didn't. work well: 1. You breath on the thing, and it does something. It's extremely sensitive 2. It's really hard to fast fwd/rewind just a little bit. Its good at scrubbing through a whole movie,…

I'm always a little surprised when people talk about the Apple TV remote, since I always just use my phone as the remote, and assume that everyone else would too; you always have your phone and often don't have the remote on-hand.

I generally want any member of the viewing party to be able to hit the pause button when they want to say something or step away for a moment. I also like being able to instantly hit a button in the dark purely with muscle memory. A TV remote on the coffee table really can’t be beat.

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Post by nostromo »

AlphaWeaver wrote: post #131

Something that might be being overlooked - it looks like this supports pairing Xbox One controllers that use Xbox Wireless! This is a different standard than Bluetooth and should enable everyone who has Xbox controllers to easily use them in Apple Arcade. Impressive!

The iPad has had this for a while.

It's really an entirely different (and much better) gaming experience. It makes your iPad more like a Nintendo Switch.

Unfortunately most games ignore the controller because not enough people do this.

If Apple is serious about gaming, they'll need to actually ship a controller with the Apple TV at some point.

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Post by corysama »

conception wrote: post #23
goodcjw2 wrote: post #18

Honestly speaking, the problem with Apple TV is that chips like A12 are such a overkill for TV box use cases. I recently purchased a $30 Roku and find it has almost 99% of the features that an Apple TV would have (including airplay2). Yes, Apple TV would have better color, visual quality, etc, but that's way into the realm of dismissed return for the investment IMHO.

It’s insane they don’t package a first party controller and just take the video console space over with it.

I've heard an insider rumor that there was a plan years ago to make an Apple TV that would compete directly with the PS4. It was shelved because the person in charge of the App Store simply hated games and believed that music is the only art form worthy of respect.

This led to that person demanding the limited set of Bluetooth channels be allocated in such a way that sufficiently responsive game controllers would be impossible. And, thus the concept was shelved.

That person was later moved to be in charge of Apple Music.

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Post by tshaddox »

azinman2 wrote: post #118
RandallBrown wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you click on the left or right side of the remote it will jump back or forward 10 seconds. Makes going back 30 seconds really easy.

For some reason, this doesn’t always work, even though I see the 30 sec jog icon appear.

It’s probably your physical button. My button will audibly click when I have my thumb on the far left or right edge, but won’t actually trigger unless I press very firmly after hearing the click. Pressing the button with my thumb in the middle works reliably as expected. Apple support wouldn’t do anything about this except offer to sell me a replacement remote.

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Post by tptacek »

tshaddox wrote: post #195
tptacek wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm always a little surprised when people talk about the Apple TV remote, since I always just use my phone as the remote, and assume that everyone else would too; you always have your phone and often don't have the remote on-hand.

I generally want any member of the viewing party to be able to hit the pause button when they want to say something or step away for a moment. I also like being able to instantly hit a button in the dark purely with muscle memory. A TV remote on the coffee table really can’t be beat.

The iOS TV remote makes it easier for people to share control of the TV, not harder.
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