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Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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so.... Discord will be a hellscape in 3-5 years as its inevitably destroyed by corporate greed?

What would the outlook be if Discord was bought by Microsoft?

A valuation based on metrics more closely tied to reality because the owner would actually focus on the viability and sustainability of the product.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

#102

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As someone who's never used Discord, what's it do better than Slack? Superficially other than aesthetics/integrations, they seem basically identical

Discord is more like a ventrilo replacement for gamers. It was primarily voice chat in its early days. They've done a lot of work to make the chatroom space on par with any other chat application you'd use otherwise. They also now allow for direct screenshare and game streaming. I wouldn't ever have considered Discord for Enterprise use at a serious company, but I guess it could do everything Slack can. For personal…

Discord is still way worse in text chat.

I (as a uni. student, so take it with a grain of salt) am involved in managing several large projects - overseeing 4 teams of around 10 people each. We decided to use Discord as the university did not want to pay Slack workspace licenses and it has been a frustrating experience to say the least.

Comparing to several experiences I have had with similar-sized teams and even a larger, albeit still small-ish, organization, there are many complaints to be had:

- No threads. This one is Discord's Achille's heel when compared to Slack. If you have even two or three simultaneous conversations around the same topic, you either a) are unable to understand what's going on past a certain point or b) need to take the conversation somewhere private, essentially losing one of the main components of the experience.

- No archiving channels. Seriously. I have categories in my Discord servers to archive stuff, and it just means that there is a dump of channels clobbering the interface for day-to-day operation. The Slack model where they are tucked away in a closet is much better.

- Integrations. Discord bots are cool for music but everything productive, from /gcal to Doodle/GitHub/Trello/Google Drive integration is better on Slack.

One thing I think is overrated is the search. Discord's sucks, and while Slack search works reasonably well, I do find it hard to remember relevant information to put in the search prompt. Essentially I think that you still need an external place to store persistent documentation and more durable information, be it VCS issues, wikis (Notion has been a product I started using recently and seems pretty cool), but even there threads help write the docs.

Where Slack falters is not-text. As ludicrous as this sounds, I have seen cases of teams using Slack for written communication and falling into Discord for voice channels and transient chat. I think this can be made better with good integration with some communication suite: Zoom? Google Meet? Anyhow, this is where MS Teams comes and eats their lunch. Worse at everything than everyone else, but at least it does it all.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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What would the outlook be if Discord was bought by Microsoft?

A valuation based on metrics more closely tied to reality because the owner would actually focus on the viability and sustainability of the product.

Doubtful, in this case.

Microsoft would have bought Discord for the gaming community and pursued tight integration with the XBox ecosystem. Which could have boosted the platform, but probably not in a way that resulted in a lot of direct revenue.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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What would the outlook be if Discord was bought by Microsoft?

Discord 365 Home Edition, with Lync (64-bit) (Not Responding)

At least on my hardware Skype and Teams are much more responsive than Discord though. And the laptop's coolers get the workout of their lifetime whenever Discord spins up.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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What about Discord besides network effect makes it a desirable holding? Do they have any technological advantage?

Data from a lot of users? I mean, they inspect all audio/video communications in real-time[1] and save all your messages, pictures etc. It also helps a lot that basically no one cares about privacy anymore, so further growth seems secured.

[1] https://medium.com/tenable-techblog/lets-reverse-engineer-di...

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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What about Discord besides network effect makes it a desirable holding? Do they have any technological advantage?

I assumed they wanted to buy the userbase. And use it to promote XBox and Game Pass.

I can see why Discord backed off if their vision is to have a broader audience of non-gamers. Joining Microsoft would have meant they'd be stuck in their pigeonhole.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Speaking as an 18 y.o. doing my first year college online, I wouldn't have made it through quarantine without Discord. I've a server with my high school friends and since Discord lowers the barrier to join a voice call so much it's super chill to just hop in a channel when doing homework or playing a game or whatever else, and anyone else who's free can join. I really wish there were competition, but there's nothing…

Why not matrix?

My username and favorite aliases were taken.

Discord allows anyone to share the same username. It appends a nearly invisible hash to disambiguate, and you can even change it.

Discord does usernames right.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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post #76

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Discord has a business model: Get people engaged in a community, sell them Nitro so they can boost their communities [1][2]. The "buy benefits for you community" scheme is wildly successful in mobile games, so I wouldn't be surprised if it works well for Discord. 1: https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/360028038352-S... 2: https://discord.com/nitro

The fact that they are trying to sell/IPO is pretty strong evidence that they are not profitable, I think. But regardless, I will give them massive props for not just doing the ad thing, which is the last gasp of this style of startup before they finish circling the drain. Lookin' at you, Imgur.

Imgur has had ads since a couple months after launch. Nearly 98% of Imgur's lifespan has had ads.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

#110
post #77

Speaking as an 18 y.o. doing my first year college online, I wouldn't have made it through quarantine without Discord. I've a server with my high school friends and since Discord lowers the barrier to join a voice call so much it's super chill to just hop in a channel when doing homework or playing a game or whatever else, and anyone else who's free can join. I really wish there were competition, but there's nothing…

What do you feel is missing from Discord?
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