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I'm happy that they ditched the old, confusing 'touch' Siri remote for a traditional four button (up/down/left/right) one. The old Siri remote was pretty frustrating. I know some people love it, but there's so many ways it didn't. work well: 1. You breath on the thing, and it does something. It's extremely sensitive 2. It's really hard to fast fwd/rewind just a little bit. Its good at scrubbing through a whole movie,…

I'm a decently savvy iPhone user and the traditional remote is absolute garbage. Wonder if you can just buy the remote independently and use on old hardware?

You can. $59.

https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MJFM3LL/A/siri-remote

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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post #55

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Can I pay for just the new remote? Will it work with the old AppleTV 4K?

The remote will cost 59$ and is compatible with the previous generation.

This is the best news of the whole new Apple TV announcement!

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post #129

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I'm not totally sure how it works (the only connection between my ATV and my AV system is HDMI) but adjusting the volume --- on my receiver --- works fine from the Apple TV iPhone remote.

It uses HDMI ARC but it's pretty flaky from the iPhone in my experience. Works more consistently with the remote itself. No idea why.

I'm pretty certain that the ATV remote beams good old fashioned infrared signals to change the volume on your TV/soundbar/receiver directly without involving the ATV itself.

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I'm always a little surprised when people talk about the Apple TV remote, since I always just use my phone as the remote, and assume that everyone else would too; you always have your phone and often don't have the remote on-hand.

I think if one is going to always use their phone, then they probably bought a Chromecast at 1/4 the price. Unless they have a really strong attachment to the Apple ecosystem.

What? I have an iPhone and an Apple TV, I use my phone as the remote 99% of the time, mostly because I always have my phone on me. I bought an Apple TV because it’s the only device that doesn’t sell user data, nothing to do with how it is controlled. The touch remote is pretty crap for actual use, nice to see they’re going back to buttons.

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not totally sure how it works (the only connection between my ATV and my AV system is HDMI) but adjusting the volume --- on my receiver --- works fine from the Apple TV iPhone remote.

It uses HDMI ARC but it's pretty flaky from the iPhone in my experience. Works more consistently with the remote itself. No idea why.

I have two Sony TVs, one from 2016 and one from 2020, and they both work fine to control volume from the remote. One goes to a set of Homepods and the other on the TV itself.

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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My number one complaint about the current Apple TV 4K is the lack of support for the HLG[1] HDR-format used by among others BBC.

It means I need to play certain content on Android Plex on my actual TV and it just feels so unnecessary.

Here’s me hoping they have that fixed with this new release.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_Log-Gamma

Edit: Developer docs seems to imply it is supported, but I can’t see any software like Plex for tvOS actually enabling it, unlike on Android.

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/avfoundation/avpla...

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

#147

I'm happy that they ditched the old, confusing 'touch' Siri remote for a traditional four button (up/down/left/right) one. The old Siri remote was pretty frustrating. I know some people love it, but there's so many ways it didn't. work well: 1. You breath on the thing, and it does something. It's extremely sensitive 2. It's really hard to fast fwd/rewind just a little bit. Its good at scrubbing through a whole movie,…

Honestly, the old remote as-is is one of my least favorite remotes ever because of 1) the issues with accidental touches and 2) when you pick it up, you never know which way it should be pointed without looking.

But add a little silicon sleeve that solves both issues, and it quickly became my favorite.

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

#148

I'm happy that they ditched the old, confusing 'touch' Siri remote for a traditional four button (up/down/left/right) one. The old Siri remote was pretty frustrating. I know some people love it, but there's so many ways it didn't. work well: 1. You breath on the thing, and it does something. It's extremely sensitive 2. It's really hard to fast fwd/rewind just a little bit. Its good at scrubbing through a whole movie,…

The original touch AppleTV remote was probably ill-considered, but the accelerant of its demise was Apple ceasing to care if third-parties used native UIKit controls on AppleTV in a chase to get all of the channels and services to port their SmartTV applications over.

For example, the original YouTube app on the AppleTV 4th generation was great. Navigating was a breeze with the native scroll momentum and sensitivity, now playing gestures worked as expected, et all.

After a year or so the app started falling behind in features to the LG/Samsung/SmartTV/Console apps, which presumingly use a shared web/javascript base. They (I assume) decided maintaining a separate codebase for AppleTV was a waste and went to work on porting the SmartTV app to the AppleTV.

Now navigating the app using the AppleTV touch remote is complete mayhem, frustrating and unpredictable in every sense. Gestures that work on other platforms such as long press to add to playlist are absent, and the video player doesn't use the native gestures such as drag down for audio options or skip ahead/behind with tap on edge.

The new remote is Apple giving up and saying that HDMI-CEC and 4-way DPad controls have won.

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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post #30

The automatic color calibration looks be really nice. Most TVs are not well calibrated by default. I wish it would let you export the results to change the settings for all connected devices, but that’s probably too TV specific.

People on AV forums seem to enjoy giving $400+ to ISF certified calibrators, so maybe this is a nice middle ground?

The calibrated colours are output by AppleTV so

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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post #30

The automatic color calibration looks be really nice. Most TVs are not well calibrated by default. I wish it would let you export the results to change the settings for all connected devices, but that’s probably too TV specific.

This is a great feature and kudos to Apple for bringing it to the previous generation of Apple TV.

This feature will improve image quality without having to pay insane amounts for calibration.

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