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Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by tptacek »

softwaredoug wrote: post #105

I'm happy that they ditched the old, confusing 'touch' Siri remote for a traditional four button (up/down/left/right) one. The old Siri remote was pretty frustrating. I know some people love it, but there's so many ways it didn't. work well: 1. You breath on the thing, and it does something. It's extremely sensitive 2. It's really hard to fast fwd/rewind just a little bit. Its good at scrubbing through a whole movie,…

I'm always a little surprised when people talk about the Apple TV remote, since I always just use my phone as the remote, and assume that everyone else would too; you always have your phone and often don't have the remote on-hand.

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Post by azinman2 »

anw wrote: post #90

I frequently travel, and bring my AppleTV with me to hook up to hotel TVs. It would be great if they made a way to support Web logins for WiFi. At the moment, I do t see a big change between this version and the one I own. If they added that feature, I’d buy it in a heartbeat so I could stop spoofing my AppleTV’s MAC on my laptop just to login to the hotel web portals.

I just did this and used hotspot sharing from my phones LTE. Was faster than the WiFi I was at!

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by enos_feedler »

bredren wrote: post #42
yazaddaruvala wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Taking a random guess, I think it’s because the location of the AppleTV doesn’t help identify the location of the actual screen. There would need to be some awkward configuration step (redone every time the AppleTV or screen moves) that Apple just wouldn’t ask its customers to do.

Perhaps Apple will release an accessory that attaches to the TV itself.

Or maybe… a TV! I mean at this point it all but certain they will converge on an all in one unit. It just needs to pack enough differentiators into it

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Post by NaN1352 »

tshaddox wrote: post #80
conception wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s insane they don’t package a first party controller and just take the video console space over with it.

Wireless Xbox controllers work fine with Apple TV. The bigger problem is that the games simply are not designed with a TV and console controller in mind. Even the Apple Arcade titles, which are generally very polished on iPhone and iPad, are pretty janky with a controller, and nearly unusable with the Apple TV Siri Remote (even though they claim to be designed for these input devices). But yes, it's very frustrating…

It’s also kind of half assed for Apple surprisingly, specifically some games from Apple Arcade are downright unplayable on my before-last gen ATV. To a point where it feels like a scam that Apple didn’t simply exclude some titles from the older ATVs, it’s just bad user experience. I remember one 3d game was super puxellated due to upscaling and like 10fps :/. Why even allow users to get this game on aging hardware?

Now I wonder if it’s worth upgrading for AA. I hate mobile games but there are a few good ports of pc games. And if i could play a good rogue game on my tv for smaller 20-30min sessions I’m sold.

I’m still going to upgrade because you can feel even simple apps like twitch tv are laggy on before-last gen.

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by ashtonbaker »

tptacek wrote: post #122
softwaredoug wrote: post #105

I'm happy that they ditched the old, confusing 'touch' Siri remote for a traditional four button (up/down/left/right) one. The old Siri remote was pretty frustrating. I know some people love it, but there's so many ways it didn't. work well: 1. You breath on the thing, and it does something. It's extremely sensitive 2. It's really hard to fast fwd/rewind just a little bit. Its good at scrubbing through a whole movie,…

I'm always a little surprised when people talk about the Apple TV remote, since I always just use my phone as the remote, and assume that everyone else would too; you always have your phone and often don't have the remote on-hand.

It's a better experience for sure, but loading the app takes time, and it often (for me) takes a couple tries to pair with your apple tv. Also, you can't adjust the tv volume.

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Post by willseth »

dbbk wrote: post #12
crazygringo wrote: post #9

And still no support for spatial audio with AirPods Pro? I continue to be mystified why spatial audio only works for watching movies on iOS devices. I know the official explanation is that the host device needs an accelerometer and gyroscope... but Apple TV's tend to stay still, you know. It baffles me why you can get amazing spatial audio watching a movie on a tiny screen... or regular stereo audio watching a movie…

Well they just announced that Spatial Audio works on the new iMac, so I have no idea what's going on.

It's unclear if what they announced includes support for the AirPod-type spatial audio or if it only means they are extending Spatial Audio branding to include the virtual surround feature of the new iMac's speaker array.

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by tptacek »

ashtonbaker wrote: post #126
tptacek wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm always a little surprised when people talk about the Apple TV remote, since I always just use my phone as the remote, and assume that everyone else would too; you always have your phone and often don't have the remote on-hand.

It's a better experience for sure, but loading the app takes time, and it often (for me) takes a couple tries to pair with your apple tv. Also, you can't adjust the tv volume.

I'm not totally sure how it works (the only connection between my ATV and my AV system is HDMI) but adjusting the volume --- on my receiver --- works fine from the Apple TV iPhone remote.

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by jolux »

tptacek wrote: post #128
ashtonbaker wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a better experience for sure, but loading the app takes time, and it often (for me) takes a couple tries to pair with your apple tv. Also, you can't adjust the tv volume.

I'm not totally sure how it works (the only connection between my ATV and my AV system is HDMI) but adjusting the volume --- on my receiver --- works fine from the Apple TV iPhone remote.

It uses HDMI ARC but it's pretty flaky from the iPhone in my experience. Works more consistently with the remote itself. No idea why.

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by minimaxir »

paulpan wrote: post #96

The chip/SOC choice is perplexing: why only the A12 and not the more powerful A12X/A12Z? It would seem more future proof for graphics intensive workloads. For comparison, the A12 is ~30% better in CPU tasks but also ~30% worse in GPU tasks. https://www.anandtech.com/show/13661/the-2018-apple-ipad-pro...

Likely cheaper for Apple for sufficient performance. The original HomePod used a two-year old A Series Chip too.
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