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Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by formercoder »

mulmen wrote: post #68
Spartan-S63 wrote: post #13

It'll be interesting to see if iPadOS 15 steps us any closer to laptop/desktop class usage. The biggest thing holding back iPad from being a real laptop replacement for so many is the software. It's also not as simple as porting macOS to iPad. I get Apple's hesitancy from a usability and a product cannibalization standpoint, but it's time they step things forward.

I have zero interest in using a worse laptop. Touch screens are an anti-feature. For decades we have tried as an industry to do touch interfaces on “real” computers and it’s always horrible because it’s not actually a thing worth doing. With M1 Macs being a thing I have no idea what benefits an iPad offers.

Touch isn’t great but styluses are for those of us that work on presentations.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by nojito »

varispeed wrote: post #76

> Committed to the Environment That section is just nasty and dishonest. It perpetuates an image of Apple as a company caring for environment, which isn't exactly true. They should at least be honest that their devices are artificially hard to repair, so that they can squeeze more money out of the consumer. If someone does not have money to pay Apple to repair the device, where it lands?

Right to repair has nothing to do with the environment.

Additionally Apple supports their devices far longer than any other company.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by [deleted] »

crazygringo wrote: post #60
Spartan-S63 wrote: post #13

It'll be interesting to see if iPadOS 15 steps us any closer to laptop/desktop class usage. The biggest thing holding back iPad from being a real laptop replacement for so many is the software. It's also not as simple as porting macOS to iPad. I get Apple's hesitancy from a usability and a product cannibalization standpoint, but it's time they step things forward.

Seriously. The thing that still bites me the most is that "Share" functionality of files continues to be broken in certain apps. For example, I frequently need to save a PDF from my Google Drive app either to my local Files or the Books app. But both those options are just... missing from the iOS share sheet, even though Acrobat is there. So I have to share to Acrobat, then share to Files or Books from within Acrobat…

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Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by hajile »

charlesju wrote: post #33
ksubedi wrote: post #5

How long before MacOS and iPadOS have enough feature parity that they get merged?

You can already use iPadOS apps on MacOS with m1 right? So maybe that's why you would pay more for the Mac versus the iPad.

1TB harddrive and 16GB of RAM puts the ipad at $1,800.

Macbook Air with the same RAM/storage is about $1,600.

If you want to compete, you need a $350 keyboard for the ipad which makes it a full $550 more expensive.

As to tradeoffs, you get a better conferencing camera and touch on the ipad, but you get a better trackpad and two thunderbolt ports on the macbook.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by eyesee »

TheDudeMan wrote: post #55

Apple has lidar on this iPad. At some point, Elon has to concede that lidar is not too expensive to put in a car, right? I understand that not all lidar is the same in precision and cost. But surely some lidar is better than no lidar.

Automotive lidar is a very different beast than this. 200m range vs 5m just to start.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by mulmen »

volta83 wrote: post #72
hajile wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The inability to run the software I need is why an ipad isn't even on my radar yet. The nicer screen isn't worth the lockdown (not to mention that the macbook air is much lighter than ipad + keyboard and cheaper too)).

The macbook air screen is ok, its webcam is horrible, it doesn't have a touch screen, so you can't use it as a "digital blackboard" for remote work, and it can't use multiple monitors. The iPad has a great front camera, great screen, great touch screen and Apple Pen, yet is software-handicapped to prevent professional use. I guess Apples' goal is for people to buy both, but I've been on the market for a new "work dev…

In the last year of remote work I have not missed whiteboard collaboration at all. My team just got better at writing docs and generating diagrams with dedicated tooling.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by ttul »

WORMS_EAT_WORMS wrote: post #25

If you have been passively reading about M1 and haven’t had the chance to upgrade your Air or MBP, just know it’s the real deal. I have never been happier with a laptop than this first generation M1 MBP. A little wild to think in — poof! — a single year we have gone to the Air, Mac Book Pro, iPad, and iMac sharing the SAME chip! Amazing, can’t wait for the new iPhone...

This was indeed one of Apple's best moves ever. I've been happily using the M1 MacBook Air. So long as you steer clear of heavy apps that aren't M1-optimized, the battery life is insane and the device seems to make use of the high performance cores, which really scream.

I am confident that the iMac will take advantage of that huge wedge of metal to dissipate heat even better than the laptops do. That will allow it to run all the cores all the time. My impression is people will be extremely happy with this hardware.

I'm a total fanatic. I'll be dumping all my money into this new gear on April 30th.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by sirn »

Spartan-S63 wrote: post #13

It'll be interesting to see if iPadOS 15 steps us any closer to laptop/desktop class usage. The biggest thing holding back iPad from being a real laptop replacement for so many is the software. It's also not as simple as porting macOS to iPad. I get Apple's hesitancy from a usability and a product cannibalization standpoint, but it's time they step things forward.

Just a wishful thinking, but since this is an M1 and not the A14X (and 8c+8c+8/16GB setup used in MacBook Pro even), I'm hoping that Hypervisor.framework will come to an iPadOS in the next WWDC. Having something like macOS.app, or even Ubuntu.app within iPad Pro would make it a pretty amazing convertible (for me).
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