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Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by gmaster1440 »

Spartan-S63 wrote: post #13

It'll be interesting to see if iPadOS 15 steps us any closer to laptop/desktop class usage. The biggest thing holding back iPad from being a real laptop replacement for so many is the software. It's also not as simple as porting macOS to iPad. I get Apple's hesitancy from a usability and a product cannibalization standpoint, but it's time they step things forward.

Missed opportunity in today's announcement to introduce arguably the most compelling part of M1 adoption: a desktop-like experience, especially since hardware keyboard and trackpad already exist.

If it runs M1, I wanna run my Electron VS Code on it.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by paulpan »

ksubedi wrote: post #5

How long before MacOS and iPadOS have enough feature parity that they get merged?

I wonder even if that never comes to fruition, there'll be a "hackpad" that's essentially flashing/installing macOS onto an iPad Pro. Same M1 SOC hypothetically should be straightforward.

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Post by julienb_sea »

I have a 2018 iPad Pro and it still feels wildly overpowered. I can't really see myself upgrading for a newer chip. They need to further improve on the software to make it more realistic as a high performance work environment. Until then, I'll continue using laptops, and my iPad will remain primarily for web browsing and media consumption.

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Post by smasher164 »

To me, it doesn't matter how powerful the iPad is if the software experience is subpar. Multitasking is cumbrous enough that it might as well not exist, multi-display setups can only mirror at a fixed aspect ratio, it lacks multiple user profiles requiring a family to be under a single user, and the few apps that take advantage of the keyboard/trackpad are nowhere similar to their desktop counterparts.

Take Excel for example. Try right-clicking on a cell or dragging down a formula, and you'll see that it only picks it up a fraction of the time, and you have to click multiple times with gesture-like latencies in between to get it to work.

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Post by oddity »

masklinn wrote: post #12
ksubedi wrote: post #5

How long before MacOS and iPadOS have enough feature parity that they get merged?

Probably never. The divergence between macOS and ipadOS is not technical, it's that Apple believes a touch-oriented and a pointer-oriented interface are completely different things.

That might be part, but it's not the whole picture.

The only way to put software on the iPad is through Apple's app store, which is a hill they seem awfully willing to die on. It's possible they give that up for the iPad but hold onto the iPhone, but that would weaken the PR value of their security argument.

I've worked a full week away from an office using only VNC even before Apple added mouse support. It's fine. Touch-oriented vs Mouse-oriented is an odd philosophy to hold when it's used to oppose a workflow being somewhat supported vs not at at all.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by api »

Spartan-S63 wrote: post #13

It'll be interesting to see if iPadOS 15 steps us any closer to laptop/desktop class usage. The biggest thing holding back iPad from being a real laptop replacement for so many is the software. It's also not as simple as porting macOS to iPad. I get Apple's hesitancy from a usability and a product cannibalization standpoint, but it's time they step things forward.

"If I can't run whatever I want on it, it's a console not a real computer."

iPads are still consoles regardless of what kind of chip you put in them.

That may be Apple's intent. They don't seem to be cancelling the Mac, their "real computer." There's more than one market.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by kgermino »

mlindner wrote: post #29
Spartan-S63 wrote: post #13

It'll be interesting to see if iPadOS 15 steps us any closer to laptop/desktop class usage. The biggest thing holding back iPad from being a real laptop replacement for so many is the software. It's also not as simple as porting macOS to iPad. I get Apple's hesitancy from a usability and a product cannibalization standpoint, but it's time they step things forward.

As an active user of the Mac. That would not be a step forward. It would be a step backward. There are so many things that are fundamentally impossible on a closed ecosystem like the iPad. For example, Macs still support, even on the M1, installing your own OSes. I don't get why some Apple fans are so interested in destroying a core stable of Apple's userbase.

It would destroy the Mac user base if iPads were capable of running desktop class applications?

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by hajile »

charlesju wrote: post #30
Austin_Conlon wrote: post #6

What kinds of iPadOS workflows benefit from this most? The device never seemed lacking in performance.

Maybe it's not even about more performance, it's simply about economics of scale. It's cheaper to just make more m1 chips than to create a new process to create a worse m1-mobile version. Paradoxically you might get more speed for less cost.

Their entire current lineup has all 8 cores plus 7 or 8 GPU cores too.

I was thinking that they'd sell a 6-core M1 in the AppleTV, but I guess that's not happening and the package is too big to go in a phone. Given their die size and even amazing return rates, there are hundreds of thousands of m1 chips that simply aren't being used. That seems like a lot of waste for a company that talks about going green. Maybe they have another project in the works.

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