iPad Pro M1 • Hacker News Board

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by masklinn » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 6:09 PM UTC

damsta wrote: post #9

Is 8GB of unified memory enough for a such machine?

The previous generation maxed at 6, so probably.

Although note that it maxes at 16, not 8. But the RAM you get is linked to the SSD size for some reason:

> 8GB RAM on models with 128GB, 256GB, or 512GB storage

> 16GB RAM on models with 1TB or 2TB storage

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by ksubedi » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 6:09 PM UTC

masklinn wrote: post #12

ksubedi wrote: post #5

How long before MacOS and iPadOS have enough feature parity that they get merged?

Probably never. The divergence between macOS and ipadOS is not technical, it's that Apple believes a touch-oriented and a pointer-oriented interface are completely different things.

While that makes sense, Apple's recent changes with the iPad Keyboard case adding a trackpad makes me think that they might have something else brewing for the long term. Time will tell, but I would love to see more MacOS applications like XCode become available on the iPad.

Edit: Also the fact that MacOS has been changing the UI to make it more touch friendly, for example: new control center.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by ilkkao » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 6:10 PM UTC

ksubedi wrote: post #5

How long before MacOS and iPadOS have enough feature parity that they get merged?

My guess is that they prefer to sell more than one device to everybody, so not anytime soon.

Really interested to hear Apple’s excuse not allowing to run MacOS on M1 iPad pro with an external monitor and keyboard. The standard "optimized for different use case" argument doesn't make that much sense with that setup.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by cap10morgan » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 6:10 PM UTC

I'm hoping this leads to an announcement of some kind of hypervisor support in iPadOS 15. I would imagine that would come at WWDC if it's coming. Seems like it would allow software development on the iPad while retaining app sandboxing.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by WORMS_EAT_WORMS » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 6:11 PM UTC

If you have been passively reading about M1 and haven’t had the chance to upgrade your Air or MBP, just know it’s the real deal. I have never been happier with a laptop than this first generation M1 MBP.

A little wild to think in — poof! — a single year we have gone to the Air, Mac Book Pro, iPad, and iMac sharing the SAME chip! Amazing, can’t wait for the new iPhone...

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 6:11 PM UTC

masklinn wrote: post #12

ksubedi wrote: post #5

How long before MacOS and iPadOS have enough feature parity that they get merged?

Probably never. The divergence between macOS and ipadOS is not technical, it's that Apple believes a touch-oriented and a pointer-oriented interface are completely different things.

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Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by nkotov » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 6:11 PM UTC

I have the 12.9 iPad Pro (last generation now) and I really want to like but I can't - I keep going back to using a MBP.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by faitswulff » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 6:11 PM UTC

ksubedi wrote: post #5

How long before MacOS and iPadOS have enough feature parity that they get merged?

They just split off iPadOS from iOS, so it seems unlikely.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by mlindner » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 6:11 PM UTC

Spartan-S63 wrote: post #13

It'll be interesting to see if iPadOS 15 steps us any closer to laptop/desktop class usage. The biggest thing holding back iPad from being a real laptop replacement for so many is the software. It's also not as simple as porting macOS to iPad. I get Apple's hesitancy from a usability and a product cannibalization standpoint, but it's time they step things forward.

As an active user of the Mac. That would not be a step forward. It would be a step backward. There are so many things that are fundamentally impossible on a closed ecosystem like the iPad. For example, Macs still support, even on the M1, installing your own OSes.

I don't get why some Apple fans are so interested in destroying a core stable of Apple's userbase.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by charlesju » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 6:11 PM UTC

Austin_Conlon wrote: post #6

What kinds of iPadOS workflows benefit from this most? The device never seemed lacking in performance.

Maybe it's not even about more performance, it's simply about economics of scale. It's cheaper to just make more m1 chips than to create a new process to create a worse m1-mobile version. Paradoxically you might get more speed for less cost.