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Nextdoor will alert users if it thinks they’re about to post something racist

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Re: Nextdoor will alert users if it thinks they’re about to post something racist

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I wish all this moderation would be flipped around. Just allow people to filter the content they see. We should have a system similar to movie content ratings to make it easier instead of manually muting keywords like on Twitter. Then there is no controversy and everyone can get along.

Re: Nextdoor will alert users if it thinks they’re about to post something racist

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I wish all this moderation would be flipped around. Just allow people to filter the content they see. We should have a system similar to movie content ratings to make it easier instead of manually muting keywords like on Twitter. Then there is no controversy and everyone can get along.

I agree that this is the way we should go if we want to have moderation of content that also respects freedom of speech. However, I don't think what most people people want is just to not see racist comment online, they want to prevent/forbid racist comment online, even if they don't see it.

Otherwise Parler would never have been shut down like it was, people would simply ignore it. But instead, people go out of their way in order to silence Parler, even if it's not their community.

Re: Nextdoor will alert users if it thinks they’re about to post something racist

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I wish all this moderation would be flipped around. Just allow people to filter the content they see. We should have a system similar to movie content ratings to make it easier instead of manually muting keywords like on Twitter. Then there is no controversy and everyone can get along.

I don't think it's wise to encourage people to silo themselves away into echo chambers - experience would seem to indicate that in the long run, it leads to more even controversy and even less getting along. We need to tackle issues collectively, as a society.

And racism is an "issue". It's not like profanity or sex - something that's to be avoided in polite company but fine among consenting adults. It's not fine. Hiding it from view - letting the racists all be racist together while the anti-racists remain oblivious - makes it worse, not better.

Re: Nextdoor will alert users if it thinks they’re about to post something racist

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Alerting for something like "blue lives matter" mentioned in article seems like projecting political beliefs a bit vs some of the actual racist content you see in Nextdoor.

Maybe people's families are more important to them than not being called racist by a corporation.

Re: Nextdoor will alert users if it thinks they’re about to post something racist

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I wish all this moderation would be flipped around. Just allow people to filter the content they see. We should have a system similar to movie content ratings to make it easier instead of manually muting keywords like on Twitter. Then there is no controversy and everyone can get along.

I don't think it's wise to encourage people to silo themselves away into echo chambers - experience would seem to indicate that in the long run, it leads to more even controversy and even less getting along. We need to tackle issues collectively, as a society. And racism is an "issue". It's not like profanity or sex - something that's to be avoided in polite company but fine among consenting adults. It's not fine. Hi…

OK I am not a racist. Let me just affirm that. Here is my question- what if the tenets of racism - that race is tied in some fundamental way to a profile of abilities and deficits- is right? It's a possible world. Ethnically Jewish people could just be born with more verbal ability than whites. That is not impossible.

My point is this. By demanding a world in which some things cannot even be spoken of (except by critics) you're amputating our ability to know reality.

If people with your opinion in the 1800s had achieved the type of dominion over others you now seek, there would not be womens right and there would not be gay rights and there would not be equal rights.

The built-in assumption of your post is- we have reached a point of final knowledge about the physical universe and what is and is not possible in it. All further inquiries are a sort of crime.

This is exactly the attitude the old Soviet Union took towards evolution and Mao took towards, well everything really. It's the grand totalitarian error at its core, irrespective of what claims it makes for itself.

Re: Nextdoor will alert users if it thinks they’re about to post something racist

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I don't think it's wise to encourage people to silo themselves away into echo chambers - experience would seem to indicate that in the long run, it leads to more even controversy and even less getting along. We need to tackle issues collectively, as a society. And racism is an "issue". It's not like profanity or sex - something that's to be avoided in polite company but fine among consenting adults. It's not fine. Hi…

OK I am not a racist. Let me just affirm that. Here is my question- what if the tenets of racism - that race is tied in some fundamental way to a profile of abilities and deficits- is right? It's a possible world. Ethnically Jewish people could just be born with more verbal ability than whites. That is not impossible. My point is this. By demanding a world in which some things cannot even be spoken of (except by crit…

Race is a socially constructed category. The idea that someone is a different "race" just because they look different is not supported by biology. In all metrics there is more variation within a group than between groups. So the "tenets of racism" have been decisively disproven many times over.

The problem with defeating these in the marketplace of ideas, so to speak, is that their propagation has nothing to do with logic. People who believe them would find a way to dismiss any logical counterargument. The only way to squash it, arguably, is to prevent it.

Not to mention the fact that people who are targeted by these ideas, which deny their humanity, are going to feel hurt and excluded in any space that allows it. So preventing that from happening is a real-time, concrete concern.

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