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The Endless Acid Banger: algorithmic self-composing acid techno music
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#132Cute. All we need is for it to have maybe a couple more tracks and an option to instead randomize each track every 3-6 full bars, and I can leave it on all day...
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#133I'm fascinated by the implication that in the not so far future we'll reach a point where we can teach a computer to generate arbitrary works of art endlessly. Want new episodes of Seinfeld? Just feed the existing episodes to an AI and ask it to make new ones. Beatles songs? Ditto. Spotify can look at your playlists and not only recommend tracks that you might like, but actually create some artificially. Post-cultura…
I'm endlessly fascinated how we on HN have the arrogance to assume we can do things like auto-generate Beatles songs or episodes of Seinfeld. Do you think comedy writers are sitting around the writing room saying "Man, in 5 years we'll be able to take over those nerd jobs, no problem." To auto-generate Seinfeld or Beatles... you have to be able to create as well as Seinfeld or the Beatles. Try it sometime. When you m…
I wasn't talking about hand-written algorithms like the article is using, I'm talking about machine learning. TFA made me think about it because we've seen a lot of "this X does not exist" lately. I should've been more specific about what I had in mind, I agree that it's a reach with this particular example.
Sure, we're still a long way away, but progress has been exponential. It'll probably take decades but I suspect that we may see something like that in our lifetimes.
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#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sufficiently intoxicated people will dance to anything I've heard this sentiment before and I always wonder whether it has been given enough thought or whether it's really true for you and the people you know. I mean, me and me friends have left more than one party because we'd rather stroll around the neighbourhood than endure the music the DJ was playing. Admittedly that happened more when not using drugs but it's…
> Sufficiently intoxicated people will dance to anything There's an urban legend saying Richard D James (Aphex Twin) threw a microphone in a kitchen blender at a concert and people were dancing to that sound...
I was at one of those gigs before several years ago. Possibly because the volume was too loud, or the music generally too discordant but about 85% of the crowd went upstairs to the chill out room for the majority of the set. I remember a distinct "nope" feeling. The artist himself was off stage twiddling his knobs too.
Those who remained were selling merch, behind the bar, or stood at the back with arms folded.
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#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm endlessly fascinated how we on HN have the arrogance to assume we can do things like auto-generate Beatles songs or episodes of Seinfeld. Do you think comedy writers are sitting around the writing room saying "Man, in 5 years we'll be able to take over those nerd jobs, no problem." To auto-generate Seinfeld or Beatles... you have to be able to create as well as Seinfeld or the Beatles. Try it sometime. When you m…
I wasn't talking about hand-written algorithms like the article is using, I'm talking about machine learning. TFA made me think about it because we've seen a lot of "this X does not exist" lately. I should've been more specific about what I had in mind, I agree that it's a reach with this particular example. Sure, we're still a long way away, but progress has been exponential. It'll probably take decades but I suspec…
> It'll probably take decades but I suspect that we may see something like that in our lifetimes.
Making good stuff is hard. They were saying the same thing in the 50s, 60s, and 70s with other AI approaches. People are actually pretty smart.
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> 909+303+303, devices that support only a 1 bar loop Ha, no, you can input a great deal more than a single bar into them. They were designed to let users store a variety of patterns, which can then be assembled into a traditional intro-verse-chorus song structure, if you so wish.
Doh I stand corrected :) Though still nowhere near as much potential for refining the end result as you get with a DAW. That's not to say live performance doesn't have value of course!
Yep I've done it. Suuuper tedious. Which is why I suspect even though you can do 2 or more bar phrases, single bar loops (vamps?) are pretty typical, instead varying the filter envelope and distortion over time.
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no one would notice anything's amiss I doubt it. Perhaps you were lucky with the piece you listened to, but I checked it for 5 minutes and the off-beat things it generates are pretty much unheard of in this genre. Not that there's no off-beat produced by humans, but it doesn't sound anything like this. Simply because what the machine is doing here brakes the rhythm too much, making it harder to dance on, and after al…
I think you were unlucky, actually. I've been playing around with it on and off for a few hours now and sometimes it gets locked into the behaviour you describe, but for the most part it's very standard 4/4.
Same. 30 minutes in, and this acid is better than a lot of #acidtechno on Instagram. It's just missing having more accents on the 303 :)
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#138Love your sound experiments
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#139very cool
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#140This is a great project, well done. Algorithmic music is fascinating to me, I feel like there's a lot of untapped potential in the concept particularly with more 'complex' genres where higher levels of composition and structural continuity are required. This tends to work much better with loop-based genres but I'd personally love to do a side project on something that could write melodies from some sort of generative…
> I feel like there's a lot of untapped potential in the concept particularly with more 'complex' genres Well, you're in good company. This goes back for many decades. Here is a summary of many attempts during this time: https://www.amazon.com/Algorithmic-Composition-Paradigms-Aut... . Really convincing composition started to appear only recently using transformers, e.g. https://openai.com/blog/musenet/ . The present…
Awesome thanks. Yeah I'm vaguely familiar with the history but certainly not the state of the art. Will take a look at this open AI project.