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The “Granny Knot”

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Post by lmilcin »

Doxin wrote: post #187
wffurr wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Berluti knot looks a lot like "Ian's secure knot" mentioned in other threads: https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/secureknot.htm

So having immediately tried this knot, I cannot get it to lay with the laces to the side like that. Mine turns vertical. My first assumption was that I was making a granny knot, but it doesn't matter which way around I knot the second knot. Is this just a failing of this knot or am I doing something wrong?

You are making berluti version of granny knot or granny version of berluti knot (which may very well be the same thing but I just can't decide how to name this correctly).

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Post by eythian »

jet_32951 wrote: post #130
samatman wrote: post #112

Random terminology question: While I was aware of the term "Reef knot", that knot is commonly, almost exclusively, called a "Square knot" in my (midwestern American) dialect of English. Is this a British thing?

Among American sailors you will find "reef knot" dominates: it is the knot used to "reef" or diminish a sail's useful area. Among Boy Scouts (and no offense intended here) you will find the term "square knot" dominates.

Scouts, but not in the US, was where I learnt it as "reef knot", it's pretty much the go-to knot there, to the point where I recall it making up part of a lot of designs on badges and such.

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Post by TLLtchvL8KZ »

Anyone else tie their shoes once, just enough to fit but just enough to slide on and off? I tuck the exposed parts back under the laced part to keep them safe and out of the way.

I cannot imagine having to tie shoes several times a week let alone several times a day. Seems like a waste of time.

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Post by yarcob »

TLLtchvL8KZ wrote: post #213

Anyone else tie their shoes once, just enough to fit but just enough to slide on and off? I tuck the exposed parts back under the laced part to keep them safe and out of the way. I cannot imagine having to tie shoes several times a week let alone several times a day. Seems like a waste of time.

When I was a kid I hated the fact that I always was the slowest kid because I had laces and all the other kids had velcro shoes.

Now I just don't care. Sure it takes 15 seconds to tie them but at some point I just stopped caring about those 15 seconds.

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Post by mkesper »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #203
laurieg wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few weeks ago I went to play a piece on the piano. I completely blanked, tried to piece together the intro by ear but wasn't really getting anywhere. My teacher played the intro and then boom, the whole thing was back under my fingers. The brain really is fascinating.

I went to the shops yesterday and forgot the PIN code for both my cards. I've been typing one of those in for nearly 20 years. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ My mum frequently punches in her postal code instead.

Try to remember the finger movements.

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Post by yarcob »

AceyMan wrote: post #176

I've been a fan of Ian's Shoelace Site for over twenty years. Tying your shoelaces is "lost technology." When I was in first grade nearly everyone could tie their shoes properly. Today, I can go weeks and not see anyone in public with their laces in the proper bow knot. (This includes professional athletes.) When did we collectively lose the ability to dress ourselves? And why? /Acey

My kids are 7 and 8 years old and can't tie laces because they never had shoes with laces.

(We've taught them how to tie laces on multiple occasions but it's pointless if they don't have shoes where they need to tie them)

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Post by hrktb »

mikewarot wrote: post #132

If you want a conspiracy theory about it... I believe that power is passed along selectively to children, to help decide who the future elite are.... the "lucky" half are taught how to correctly tie their shoes... the other half end up with granny knots, which then signals to the elite this person is not one of them. I was one of the granny knot population, always having to stop and re-tie my shoes... fortunately I l…

The third half doesn't feel beauty in knots and just buy shoes that don't rely on that.

I think it's the same process as button shirts. This is a whole culture and social marker, but ultimately you can live your life without wearing them more than once a year.

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Post by spurgu »

iandinwoodie wrote: post #6

A few years ago I switched from the "Granny Knot" to the "Ian Knot" [0] in order to (1) eliminate the need for "double knotting" and (2) straighten the bow. Despite the few embarrassing times early in the process where friends observed me struggling to tie my shoes, I can confidently say the switch has been worth it. [0] https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm

The problem I see with this is that with some types of laces the first knot could loosen up while making the second part. But that might be fixed with technique.

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Post by sdeframond »

mkesper wrote: post #215
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I went to the shops yesterday and forgot the PIN code for both my cards. I've been typing one of those in for nearly 20 years. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ My mum frequently punches in her postal code instead.

Try to remember the finger movements.

Works well until you encounter a new keypad layout (eg when going abroad). I locked my card once like this although I had been typing the code for years before.

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Post by ie21 »

Andrex wrote: post #136
sixhobbits wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In classical music at least it's often referred to as a "memory lapse"

Your comment got me looking into the phenomenon, and I found this great article: https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1994-07-17-19941981... From 1994!

Would love to read if anyone has it mirrored? Looks like the original article isn't available for EU market.
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