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Home ownership is the West’s biggest economic-policy mistake

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Re: Home ownership is the West’s biggest economic-policy mistake

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Any way for me to access the article from EU without subscription or account?

Why are paywall articles even allowed on HN? All they do is encourage people to comment without reading the article and talk based on headlines alone.

If there's a workaround, it's ok. Users usually post workarounds in the thread.

This is in the FAQ at https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html and there's more explanation here:

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10178989

Re: Home ownership is the West’s biggest economic-policy mistake

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> From Sydney to Sydenham, fiddly regulations protect an elite of existing homeowners and prevent developers from building the skyscrapers and flats that the modern economy demands. The resulting high rents and house prices make it hard for workers to move to where the most productive jobs are, and have slowed growth. Following this logic from the ancient Greek times, by now we would have thousand stories skyscrapers…

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Re: Home ownership is the West’s biggest economic-policy mistake

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> At the root of that failure is a lack of building, especially near the thriving cities in which jobs are plentiful.

I think the biggest economic policy failure of the West is the hyper-concentration of high-paying jobs and enormous wealth in a few cities. What percentage of wealth do New York, Seattle, San Francisco, Los Angeles, and London represent?

The truth is as long as the wealth is hyperconcentrated in these cities, you can densify all you want, but you are still going to have massive inequality as to who can afford housing and, because of politics, massive advantages of people already there versus newcomers.

In this age of jet aircraft, high speed rail, and high speed internet, it is a shame that we still cannot spread out the economic opportunities over larger areas.

Re: Home ownership is the West’s biggest economic-policy mistake

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I agreee that speculation on property solely as an asset is an issue, but don't really agree with the premise early in the article around the growth of cities. The argument strikes me as something like this: * An increase in the size of urban areas would increase GDP by 4% * Anything which blocks this growth is bad * Home ownership blocks this increase * Therefore, home ownership is bad The implicit premise is that a…

It’s easy to say this as someone wealthy enough to spend time commenting on online forums. What is the economic externality of urban infill development?

Re: Home ownership is the West’s biggest economic-policy mistake

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What's this obsession with increasing housing density? Population in the developing world is leveling off. Most of the developed world is already at "peak child".[1] Housing shortages come from migration to cities, not more people. [1] https://ourworldindata.org/peak-child

The rules against density have prevented a lot of demand from being met. It makes big cities where people want to live unattainable for many because of price.

It also forces many people into long commutes. This makes them less happy, cause large amounts of pollution, and creates huge traffic jams. By increasing density, biking to work becomes easier. Similarly, public transport becomes a lot more effective.

In general it leads to much more efficient cities.

Re: Home ownership is the West’s biggest economic-policy mistake

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I agreee that speculation on property solely as an asset is an issue, but don't really agree with the premise early in the article around the growth of cities. The argument strikes me as something like this: * An increase in the size of urban areas would increase GDP by 4% * Anything which blocks this growth is bad * Home ownership blocks this increase * Therefore, home ownership is bad The implicit premise is that a…

> I agreee that speculation on property solely as an asset is an issue

Speculation helps create a liquid market and stabilize prices.

Re: Home ownership is the West’s biggest economic-policy mistake

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The title is clickbait, I presume. I can't read the full article either, but in the introduction it already says that the problem is that not enough houses have been built. And in my opinion, that plus regulation failure are at the root of the problem. Who actually owns the houses is of lesser importance.

Don't some homeowners object to increased supply because they believe it hinders appreciation of their homes?

Re: Home ownership is the West’s biggest economic-policy mistake

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> At the root of that failure is a lack of building, especially near the thriving cities in which jobs are plentiful. I think the biggest economic policy failure of the West is the hyper-concentration of high-paying jobs and enormous wealth in a few cities. What percentage of wealth do New York, Seattle, San Francisco, Los Angeles, and London represent? The truth is as long as the wealth is hyperconcentrated in these…

Jet aircraft, HSR, and high speed internet are all relatively modern - newer than all the cities in your list - and require infrastructure which concentrates population growth. Have you tried pricing out the cost of Comcast trenching cables to a disconnected homestead? Now do an airport or HSR line.

Re: Home ownership is the West’s biggest economic-policy mistake

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What's this obsession with increasing housing density? Population in the developing world is leveling off. Most of the developed world is already at "peak child".[1] Housing shortages come from migration to cities, not more people. [1] https://ourworldindata.org/peak-child

There is much unmet demand for living in dense areas, and it’s unmet largely for reasons of policy set by incumbents and not technology. LA’s zoned capacity was higher 50 years ago than it is today. Same with San Francisco.
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