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Re: GitHub for Mac

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post #24

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I would say that the command line is an eminent non-graphical variant of a GUI, thus a canonical UI. GUI = graphical user interface GUI - graphical = UI

+1 CLI = command-line interface

and the beauty of CLI is that, unlike with a GUI, a CLI can serve as both a human UI, and a machine UI or API. and it does the latter for free. give me a binary-only program with a CLI interface and I can build other things on top of it, put it into a pipeline, turn it into a cronjob, etc. give me a binary-only GUI? often nothing you can build on it

Re: GitHub for Mac

#182
post #76

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Sure, but my point is that most of Github's potential customers are not on Macs.

For productivity apps (and especially developer tools), it's not worth chasing customers on a platform you don't love -- you'll do a bad job and you'll be unhappy doing it.

And as Mac users, they may be consciously avoiding the reverse of an all too familiar situation, where non-Mac-using Windows developers shoddily port their app to OSX.

Re: GitHub for Mac

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post #93

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You argue that spacing produces clutter, but I completely disagree. Clutter is shoving tons of information together without spacing.

You argue that spacing produces clutter "You argue"? Clutter means (let me open the dictionary) "a collection of things lying about in an untidy mass". I never said only spacing produces clutter. Either I'm not explaining myself clearly or you read something that was not in my comment (this is called a strawman, right?)

You come off as far more angry than is warranted for this conversation.

Re: GitHub for Mac

#184
post #96

First time an application has been unsupported on my Core Duo (32bit) Macbook Pro. Is there a reason for it, does the application really require a 64bit OS, or did the GitHub guys just forget about us early Intel Mac owners?

It was intentional. There are differences between the 32- and 64-bit ABIs that make life easier for us to go 64-bit only.

Fair enough, I'd probably do the same if I wasn't a CoreDuo owner myself, especially since Lion's dropping support too.

Re: GitHub for Mac

#185
post #144

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I never said you are completely, objectively wrong. I just disagreed with a point.. On that note, I see nothing untidy. No hostility meant by "you argue". You provided a critique, an argument. I'd open the dictionary... ;)

You disagreed with the point which I never made ("spacing produces clutter"), putting words into my mouth ("you argue").

You mentioned visual clutter, and then your first bullet point was about too much spacing. Clutter--according to the OS X dictionary you cited earlier--refers to a jumble or tangle of items, implying that they are close together. That's the discrepancy he was referring to.

His posts were completely non-hostile, so aren't you overreacting?

Re: GitHub for Mac

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post #125
post #119

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Narrowing yourself to 'git users' is a silly thing for two reasons: 1) there are many Windows devs out there who require a VCS 1a) ...who will only use a GUI-based VCS (seriously) 2) there are many users of other VCSes (e.g. Subversion) These are big markets waiting to be tapped. The answer is not "don't try if nobody else is tapping them". Hacker News is the last place I expect to hear that!

I think it's a massive opportunity. These people are using Subversion because TortoiseSVN is a nice piece of software, not because they are anti-DVCS partisans. If someone made an app like Tower but for windows and charged $50-100 for corporate licenses, they could make a killing.

Or, if the Github team, having first created a GUI for Mac, which they use themselves and can more easily test, were to then create a Windows version and charge $0 for it, they could convince a lot of Windows Subversion users to switch to Git and Github, paying monthly for private repos.

Which looks like where they're going with this.

Re: GitHub for Mac

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post #53
post #49

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There are windows on macs, but it appears Macs are going away from them with the full screen apps. Look at all of Apple's apps - they're all going single window. Document based apps can still have multiple windows, but everything is self contained.

I don't see what's changed in 10.7 regarding windows. Can you point the app that had multiple windows, but moved to something else? But you're right that you can avoid using multiple windows in the app if it's good for usability. My point is that currently it's not possible to have two repositories opened simultaneously; especially since on OS X it's difficult to open two instances of the same application. (As an exa…

I don't see what's changed in 10.7 regarding windows. Can you point the app that had multiple windows, but moved to something else?

Other than the APIs for fullscreen support, there's little that can be said without violating NDA. Other Apple applications have gone single-window over the years; Logic merged its windows two major versions ago, and Final Cut Pro X just did the same.

Steve Jobs has always preferred single windows. Before OS X 1.0, the toolbar button was instead a toggle for single window mode.

Re: GitHub for Mac

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post #55
post #54

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XCode 4, though it happened even before 10.7

Xcode had [mostly] single window mode since 2.0 or so. It wasn't default, though, and Interface Builder was a separate application.

It wasn't a true single window mode; there were still secondary windows, and Interface Builder was not integrated.

Re: GitHub for Mac

#189
post #28

I hate all the visual clutter and unjustified complexity the new stylish iOS-like interfaces bring. Those interfaces are only good for Twitter and friends (and for screenshots). Some feedback: * Get rid of huge spacing everywhere (for example here: http://github-images.s3.amazonaws.com/blog/2011/mac-screensh... ) * Make animations go faster. * History should have preview pane with diffs (see Mail) instead of making m…

Yeah, right. Remove all the whitespace. While you at it also make fonts smaller so that you can cram more data into the same space.

Some people actually like interfaces to be aesthetically pleasing. And whitespace is one of those things that really helps to make ui usable and clean.

Re: GitHub for Mac

#190
post #92
post #67

Guys, I must get a mac!

Since you're new here I'll just give you an FYI. This kind of comment is going to get you downvotes because it doesn't add anything tangible to the discussion. We value a really high signal to noise ratio.

Noted. Thanks
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