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The “Granny Knot”

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Re: The “Granny Knot”

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post #86

Speaking of unwanted knot behaviors, your headphones will knot in a pocket if you reel them up around your hand as usual, introducing a twisting moment to the wire. They will knot much less likely, if you fold them into a /\/\/\ shape instead without rotational moves. Not applicable to wireless earbuds.

One of the best way to prevent cable knots is to use the over-under technique. It helps prevent knots, and lets you unravel a cable extremely fast. I learned it in the audio industry, but it works great for cables of any size. This is a good and straightforward tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yPcJD7RVuY

The big difference between the roadie coil in your YouTube video, and the folding technique in the parent comment, is the radius of the tightest bend.

A roadie coil produces consistent loops, which are large-radius bends, aka gentle bends. This is what you want for electrical cable, especially high-quality expensive cables you want to last a long time. Tight-radius bends, aka kinks, can cause premature failure.

Folding is fine if the cord is extremely flexible, or for rope.

Folding done right produces no twists at all about the axis of the line, which is ideal. That’s why it is the preferred method for packaging rock climbing ropes. The roadie coil produces alternating twists that mostly cancel each other out once it is fully uncoiled.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

#173

https://www.ted.com/talks/terry_moore_how_to_tie_your_shoes

People are very negative about these kinds of TED talks, but I actually improved my hand drying technique after the TEDx on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FMBSblpcrc That and using the back of my hand/arm to push off the water from my body after a shower keep our towels much dryer and nicer.

This is one of my favorite Ted talks ever. I have referred so many people to it. It’s amazing what a difference a few extra little details can make in how fast and easy it is to dry my hands.

That said, I’ve tried a bunch of different ways to tie my shoes and never found a big difference between them.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

#174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did this too and also momentarily forgot how to tie my shoes! (Forgot the new method, and the old method.) Now I have saved literally minutes of my life on shoe tying.

Is there a word or a phrase for this phenomenon? When something becomes a habit requiring no thought at all and then, when forced to actually think about it, the brain draws a complete blank?

Check out the Backwards Brain Bicycle. Lots of fun.

https://youtu.be/MFzDaBzBlL0

Re: The “Granny Knot”

#175
post #92

A few years ago I switched from the "Granny Knot" to the "Ian Knot" [0] in order to (1) eliminate the need for "double knotting" and (2) straighten the bow. Despite the few embarrassing times early in the process where friends observed me struggling to tie my shoes, I can confidently say the switch has been worth it. [0] https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm

The "Ian Knot" pairs well with the Japanese T-shirt folding technique: https://youtu.be/dNr1oLhZ0zs Also, tie wearers, take the time to learn a Full Windsor: https://youtu.be/HXJx8j7JpKY

Every time I try to do the Japanese fold... this is how it ends up: https://i.imgur.com/FBYu2Ry.gif

Re: The “Granny Knot”

#176
I've been a fan of Ian's Shoelace Site for over twenty years.

Tying your shoelaces is "lost technology." When I was in first grade nearly everyone could tie their shoes properly.

Today, I can go weeks and not see anyone in public with their laces in the proper bow knot. (This includes professional athletes.)

When did we collectively lose the ability to dress ourselves? And why?

/Acey

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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post #92

A few years ago I switched from the "Granny Knot" to the "Ian Knot" [0] in order to (1) eliminate the need for "double knotting" and (2) straighten the bow. Despite the few embarrassing times early in the process where friends observed me struggling to tie my shoes, I can confidently say the switch has been worth it. [0] https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm

The "Ian Knot" pairs well with the Japanese T-shirt folding technique: https://youtu.be/dNr1oLhZ0zs Also, tie wearers, take the time to learn a Full Windsor: https://youtu.be/HXJx8j7JpKY

I honestly never find that folding technique better than just.. fold it thrice using the exactly same three folding lines:

https://i.imgur.com/CRxFYwS.png

The end result is identical, not really slower, it's easier to adjust the "proportion' during the process, and it works better with long sleeves with minor adjustment.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

#178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did this too and also momentarily forgot how to tie my shoes! (Forgot the new method, and the old method.) Now I have saved literally minutes of my life on shoe tying.

Is there a word or a phrase for this phenomenon? When something becomes a habit requiring no thought at all and then, when forced to actually think about it, the brain draws a complete blank?

Emacs!

Re: The “Granny Knot”

#179
Hilariously, my grandma was the one who taught me this when I was a child. I used to always tie double knots, and then take my shoes off without untying, and the double knot would be really hard to undo. She taught me that tying the first step in the opposite direction, the single knot doesn't come undone. Happy to see this on HN :)

Re: The “Granny Knot”

#180

A few years ago I switched from the "Granny Knot" to the "Ian Knot" [0] in order to (1) eliminate the need for "double knotting" and (2) straighten the bow. Despite the few embarrassing times early in the process where friends observed me struggling to tie my shoes, I can confidently say the switch has been worth it. [0] https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm

I did this too and also momentarily forgot how to tie my shoes! (Forgot the new method, and the old method.) Now I have saved literally minutes of my life on shoe tying.

A few weeks ago I went to play a piece on the piano. I completely blanked, tried to piece together the intro by ear but wasn't really getting anywhere. My teacher played the intro and then boom, the whole thing was back under my fingers.

The brain really is fascinating.

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