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The “Granny Knot”

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Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by moistbar »

Kluny wrote: post #134
mikewarot wrote: post #132

If you want a conspiracy theory about it... I believe that power is passed along selectively to children, to help decide who the future elite are.... the "lucky" half are taught how to correctly tie their shoes... the other half end up with granny knots, which then signals to the elite this person is not one of them. I was one of the granny knot population, always having to stop and re-tie my shoes... fortunately I l…

Has your career improved since then?

His shoelace-tying skills catapulted him past the need for such mundanity as a career. He's become one of the Illumiknotty.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by kuang_eleven »

iandinwoodie wrote: post #6

A few years ago I switched from the "Granny Knot" to the "Ian Knot" [0] in order to (1) eliminate the need for "double knotting" and (2) straighten the bow. Despite the few embarrassing times early in the process where friends observed me struggling to tie my shoes, I can confidently say the switch has been worth it. [0] https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm

Same here. In fact, in looking at the Ian Knot page again, I might start tying the "Starting Knot" differently as well!

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by sjwright »

leephillips wrote: post #82
snypher wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably something like this method; https://youtu.be/uz6rjbw0ZA0

Now what about folding fitted sheets? That’s guru-level.

I never understood the need to fold bed sheets. Crinkled sheets simply aren’t a problem I’ve ever had; you barely notice the difference once they’re stretched over the bed and pillows. I have a blanket box at the end of the bed; I just shove the second set of sheets in straight out of the dryer.

(I do fold sheets for the guest bed but that’s because the alternative set might spend months on the shelf. Most of the time the same set is washed and put straight back on the bed.)

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by crftr »

mikegreco wrote: post #148
wruza wrote: post #86

Speaking of unwanted knot behaviors, your headphones will knot in a pocket if you reel them up around your hand as usual, introducing a twisting moment to the wire. They will knot much less likely, if you fold them into a /\/\/\ shape instead without rotational moves. Not applicable to wireless earbuds.

One of the best way to prevent cable knots is to use the over-under technique. It helps prevent knots, and lets you unravel a cable extremely fast. I learned it in the audio industry, but it works great for cables of any size. This is a good and straightforward tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yPcJD7RVuY

Great tip! I was taught that this method was called the "roadie wrap." Though I was shown that it's possible to achieve the rotation by rolling the cable between my thumb and index fingers.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by kibwen »

elliekelly wrote: post #107
lwansbrough wrote: post #23

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I did this too and also momentarily forgot how to tie my shoes! (Forgot the new method, and the old method.) Now I have saved literally minutes of my life on shoe tying.

Is there a word or a phrase for this phenomenon? When something becomes a habit requiring no thought at all and then, when forced to actually think about it, the brain draws a complete blank?

Yes, "the centipede effect": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Centipede%27s_Dilemma

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by russellbeattie »

I've had a theory about this for a while - ever since that crazy Ted talk about tying shoes the "correct" way.

Because I always start right over left (or vice versa, I can't remember), my shoe laces never have that weird vertical orientation. My son, however, always has this problem.

I think it's a generational thing! Parents show their kids how to tie knots, and they always do it from the front, so each generation sees a mirrored version of the way their parents tie knots. So it goes, backs me forth throughput the years...

Just a theory, but I'm sticking to it.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by [deleted] »

qwnp wrote: post #5

The "Ian Knot"[0] (which, I just discovered, was invented by the author of that site) is quite possibly the coolest and fastest way to tie your shoes. [0] - https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm

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Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by saalweachter »

birktj wrote: post #124
ddlatham wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. I'd guess he means Ian's Secure Knot, which I also now use. https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/secureknot.htm

Is it easy to do a tight Ian's Secure Knot? The only place I would need a more secure knot is when skiing and then I also need to tie the laces very tight. Keeping the laces tight while creating the loops seems slightly difficult.

I'm not sure if it works in this context, but I tie a knot equivalent to Ian's Secure Knot, asymmetrically.

I use the standard "bunny goes around the tree" methodology, except I go around twice before pulling the loop through both.

It might be easier for your use case, because you can hold the knot with one hand while sending the bunny around the tree with the other.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by RickJWagner »

I knew instinctively how to tie a Granny knot from a young age.

Later, as a boy scout I learned how to tie the alternative square knot, which looks cool and symmetrical and offers the tremendous advantage of being easily untied.

One of the great small lessons in life.

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