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The “Granny Knot”

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Re: The “Granny Knot”

#101

This is why I switched to only wearing sneakers that don't have laces. The fact that there's a whole site dedicated to tying your shoes properly tells you everything you need to know and yet this is largely a solved problem. You might think I look childish wearing velco/slip-on shoes all the time but I get a lot of compliments on my Adidas and my Metcons.

Shoelaces can be done without using plastic. Plastic-free velcro seems at least unlikely.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

#102
post #90

My favorite shoelace knot is berluti knot. https://www.bestshoe99.in/how-to-tie-shoelaces/ It is symmetrical, it looks beautiful, it takes about as much time to tie and it has exactly zero chance of untying itself. It has never failed me since I learned it.

The Berluti knot looks a lot like "Ian's secure knot" mentioned in other threads: https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/secureknot.htm

Re: The “Granny Knot”

#103

A few years ago I switched from the "Granny Knot" to the "Ian Knot" [0] in order to (1) eliminate the need for "double knotting" and (2) straighten the bow. Despite the few embarrassing times early in the process where friends observed me struggling to tie my shoes, I can confidently say the switch has been worth it. [0] https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm

I've been using the Ian knot for many years, to the point I'm now very slow making the normal knot.

I find the Ian knot effective enough, but I think it comes undone more easily than a normal shoelace knot, I had to tie my shoes a lot back when I was outside for many hours of the day and night.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

#104

A few years ago I switched from the "Granny Knot" to the "Ian Knot" [0] in order to (1) eliminate the need for "double knotting" and (2) straighten the bow. Despite the few embarrassing times early in the process where friends observed me struggling to tie my shoes, I can confidently say the switch has been worth it. [0] https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm

I've been using the Ian knot since around 2005 and it's easily the most impactful "life hack" I've ever made. My shoes basically never come untied.

How do you do it? I've been using it for more than a decade too and I can't make it that solid. I'm very active and clumsy so I'm really stressing the knot lots of times.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

#105
The word “granny knot” is ageist and offensive. I can’t believe I’m seeing it here.

It also reenforces the idea that certain knots are “better” or “appropriate”, upholding and propagating white supremacy.

We should rename this cultural atrocity and outdated term as “the people’s knot”.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

#106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn’t it still produce the same knot as the standard shoe tie knot? I thought it was just a faster method?

Yes. I'd guess he means Ian's Secure Knot, which I also now use. https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/secureknot.htm

the ian's secure knot is one of those things that you don't think will make much of a difference to your daily life but it's like inventing a way to not stub your toe every now and again. well worth it.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

#107

A few years ago I switched from the "Granny Knot" to the "Ian Knot" [0] in order to (1) eliminate the need for "double knotting" and (2) straighten the bow. Despite the few embarrassing times early in the process where friends observed me struggling to tie my shoes, I can confidently say the switch has been worth it. [0] https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm

I did this too and also momentarily forgot how to tie my shoes! (Forgot the new method, and the old method.) Now I have saved literally minutes of my life on shoe tying.

Is there a word or a phrase for this phenomenon? When something becomes a habit requiring no thought at all and then, when forced to actually think about it, the brain draws a complete blank?

Re: The “Granny Knot”

#108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure if this would help, and I'm not exactly sure I'm understanding you correctly, but when I tie hockey stakes, instead of a single "left-over-right starting knot" (using terminology from the post), I wrap around two or even three times. This provides enough friction for that first knot to stay put while I tie the loops of the standard shoelace knot (not the Ian knot, with which I'm unfamiliar).

Sounds like you do something similar to the surgeon's knot. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surgeon%27s_knot

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Re: The “Granny Knot”

#109

This is why I switched to only wearing sneakers that don't have laces. The fact that there's a whole site dedicated to tying your shoes properly tells you everything you need to know and yet this is largely a solved problem. You might think I look childish wearing velco/slip-on shoes all the time but I get a lot of compliments on my Adidas and my Metcons.

This, though I recommend merril's or a generic brand that does the same kind of outdoorsy slip on.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

#110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn’t it still produce the same knot as the standard shoe tie knot? I thought it was just a faster method?

Yes, it does, but the Ian Knot is more reliable, especially in places where you don't have the instant muscle memory like shoelaces. If you learn the standard knot incorrectly it results in you doing a Granny Knot. But if you try to tie the Ian's Knot, you can't tie it incorrectly because it just doesn't work. And of course yes, it's faster. ETA: Also, OP may have been tying a Granny Knot from time to time which resu…

Well, tying the Ian Knot still requires you to do your starting knot in the correct orientation. Mixing it up will still result in the Granny Knot. From the other responses, it sounds like some are still getting Granny Knots even when using Ian's tying method.
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