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The “Granny Knot”

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Re: The “Granny Knot”

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A few years ago I switched from the "Granny Knot" to the "Ian Knot" [0] in order to (1) eliminate the need for "double knotting" and (2) straighten the bow. Despite the few embarrassing times early in the process where friends observed me struggling to tie my shoes, I can confidently say the switch has been worth it. [0] https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm

The "Ian Knot" pairs well with the Japanese T-shirt folding technique:

https://youtu.be/dNr1oLhZ0zs

Also, tie wearers, take the time to learn a Full Windsor:

https://youtu.be/HXJx8j7JpKY

Re: The “Granny Knot”

#93

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I've been using the Ian knot since around 2005 and it's easily the most impactful "life hack" I've ever made. My shoes basically never come untied.

Doesn’t it still produce the same knot as the standard shoe tie knot? I thought it was just a faster method?

Went to the shoes to test: Ian Knot is faster and the cord is “relaxed” (less internal stress to contribute towards loosening) rather than twisted.

I’ll try words to describe the Ian Knot: Cross the laces, tuck one under the other, and pull; let go, then pick up a “bunny ear” loop in each hand, one on either side of the pre-knot; with your middle finger, push the out-side of each “ear” through the opposite loop; with thumb and middle finger of each hand, grab the loops simultaneously as they come through; pull tight. Looks like a double knot (two loops, each around the neck of the other) with each free end fed back through, forming the loops and ensuring easy undoing.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

#94
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Now what about folding fitted sheets? That’s guru-level.

Given a clockwise counting of corners, with the "outside" facing away from you (so you are looking at / reaching "into" the sheets from the elastic side): grab the inside of 2, invert, shove into the inside of 1. do the same for 3 into 4. now you have a sheet folded in half, with two pairs of corners together. grab the inside of 1+2, invert, shove into the inside of 3+4. now it's folded to a quarter, and all the mess…

I’ve already mastered the last step.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

#95

This is why I switched to only wearing sneakers that don't have laces. The fact that there's a whole site dedicated to tying your shoes properly tells you everything you need to know and yet this is largely a solved problem. You might think I look childish wearing velco/slip-on shoes all the time but I get a lot of compliments on my Adidas and my Metcons.

I just leave my sneakers tied and use a shoe horn. Super fast and doesn't destroy the heel tab.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

#96
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My favorite shoelace knot is berluti knot. https://www.bestshoe99.in/how-to-tie-shoelaces/ It is symmetrical, it looks beautiful, it takes about as much time to tie and it has exactly zero chance of untying itself. It has never failed me since I learned it.

Ha! This is how I was taught to tie my boots as a kid. I had no idea there was a specific name for the knot.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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The end knot is identical to the standard bowknot, so it seems unlikely that this would hold any worse. If you're currently tying your shoes in a granny knot, I would be very surprised if that held better than a bowknot. I've used this method to tie all my shoes for more than a decade and it holds much better than the granny knot, which I'd guess is probably 50% of people (as whether not you end up with a granny or a…

My regular shoes have round laces, I'd guess they are nylon, some kind of synthetic fiber. Sort of slippery. Never have a problem with them coming untied if I pull the knot tight though. I don't double knot. Maybe I did the Ian knot wrong. Don't have a problem with the knot I use so not investigating further.

> My regular shoes have round laces,

I don't know why anybody makes round laces, especially out of a material that slips.

I have a pair of dress shoes that came with round laces. Even with a "correct" knot, even with double-knotting, they always came undone. I replaced the laces with standard flat laces. They might not look as good, but they look better than having to re-tie them every 30 minutes.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

#99
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Speaking of unwanted knot behaviors, your headphones will knot in a pocket if you reel them up around your hand as usual, introducing a twisting moment to the wire. They will knot much less likely, if you fold them into a /\/\/\ shape instead without rotational moves. Not applicable to wireless earbuds.

That’s how I stow extension cords and water hoses; a bunch of loops to either side of a thick middle of parallel cylinders, hung on a peg. To stretch it back out, flop the lot on the ground, grab an end and pull. No twist was introduced, so it’s less likely to get bound up.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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The "Ian Knot"[0] (which, I just discovered, was invented by the author of that site) is quite possibly the coolest and fastest way to tie your shoes. [0] - https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm

That would not work for me. I need to keep one finger on the slip knot at all times or it becomes loose, resulting in a very unsatisfying knot. This has been by far the biggest hurdle to teaching my kids to tie a decent knot in their shoelaces: they can move through the motions just fine but it's always loose. I actually start with my left index finger on the slip knot then transition to my right index finger halfway…

This is my issue and the sole reason I haven’t adopted the Ian knot. I didn’t realize it but I do the same finger swap that you do.

I’m a runner and it’s important for my laces to be exactly as tight as I need them to be. I’m wondering if others here aren’t as exacting with their knot tension needs.

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