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The “Granny Knot”

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Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by setr »

b112 wrote: post #34
Kozmik1 wrote: post #31

As others have mentioned, Ian's knots has great reccommendations, but overlooked is the "surgeon's knot". This one has two twists instead of the normal one, and comes out like a square knot if done right. It won't come untied by itself, ever. But you can untie it by tugging on the tails of the laces. You can do this one with a thumb on the initial bend, unlike the "bunny ears" style knots. It's a hell of a lot better…

I don't know why, but the picture of the shoe, with the knot at the toe end of the shoe, makes me angry. I mean, literally angry, very angry, yet there is zero valid reason to be that emotionally charged about it. Intellectually, I wonder "how will one get their shoe off, without lots of work". Yet the anger is intense for some inane reason. Now I wonder if I need therapy, due to some shoe related horror in the past.

Had I seen the shoe in the configuration you're referring to, I would have had the same reaction. In fact, such a position would be offensive to all reasonable persons. The mental image alone is revolting

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by bluenose69 »

It's pretty odd that Usain Bolt ties granny knots. As a runner, I use reef knots and I double tie, also, because at my slow speed I don't want to have to waste time retying! He could run a couple of 100m sprints in the time it would take me to fix my laces.

This may the only context in which my running can be compared with Bolt's!

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by tagster »

The proper knot to tie for shoes is a turquoise turtle, no question. I always laugh (on the inside) when I see shoe laces with crooked bows, and even more when I see them with the fabled "double knot" on top of a granny knot. There's an old saying, "If you don't know knots, you tie lots"

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by nemetroid »

latortuga wrote: post #65
procinct wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn’t it still produce the same knot as the standard shoe tie knot? I thought it was just a faster method?

Yes, it does, but the Ian Knot is more reliable, especially in places where you don't have the instant muscle memory like shoelaces. If you learn the standard knot incorrectly it results in you doing a Granny Knot. But if you try to tie the Ian's Knot, you can't tie it incorrectly because it just doesn't work. And of course yes, it's faster. ETA: Also, OP may have been tying a Granny Knot from time to time which resu…

Some time after I started tying Ian's way, I surprised myself by effortlessly tying an apron behind my back.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by wruza »

Speaking of unwanted knot behaviors, your headphones will knot in a pocket if you reel them up around your hand as usual, introducing a twisting moment to the wire. They will knot much less likely, if you fold them into a /\/\/\ shape instead without rotational moves. Not applicable to wireless earbuds.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by iandinwoodie »

procinct wrote: post #41
oldandboring wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been using the Ian knot since around 2005 and it's easily the most impactful "life hack" I've ever made. My shoes basically never come untied.

Doesn’t it still produce the same knot as the standard shoe tie knot? I thought it was just a faster method?

You are correct, as indicated by the following quote on the page I linked: “The finished Ian Knot is identical to either the Standard Shoelace Knot [...].”

Changing my Granny Knot (unbalanced) to a Standard Shoelace Knot (balanced) would have produced the same result. However, I found the Ian Knot approach to be helpful in preventing me from absentmindedly reverting back to the Granny Knot.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by ce4 »

iandinwoodie wrote: post #6

A few years ago I switched from the "Granny Knot" to the "Ian Knot" [0] in order to (1) eliminate the need for "double knotting" and (2) straighten the bow. Despite the few embarrassing times early in the process where friends observed me struggling to tie my shoes, I can confidently say the switch has been worth it. [0] https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm

Also for fun times observe people's knots around you :)

Especially funny to casually mention it to coworkers or seniors

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by Groxx »

leephillips wrote: post #82
snypher wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably something like this method; https://youtu.be/uz6rjbw0ZA0

Now what about folding fitted sheets? That’s guru-level.

Given a clockwise counting of corners, with the "outside" facing away from you (so you are looking at / reaching "into" the sheets from the elastic side):

    grab the inside of 2, invert, shove into the inside of 1.
    do the same for 3 into 4.
    now you have a sheet folded in half, with two pairs of corners together.
    grab the inside of 1+2, invert, shove into the inside of 3+4.
    now it's folded to a quarter, and all the messy stuff is together.
    lay out flat, straighten messy stuff a bit, so you can do the next step more easily.
    grab the whole thing, chuck into the closet.
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