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Job board to work on problems like climate change and food insecurity

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Re: Job board to work on problems like climate change and food insecurity

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https://80000hours.org/job-board/ > This board lists publicly advertised vacancies that we think could help those with the right fit have a positive impact. Some of these roles help tackle some of the world’s most pressing problems, while others help people build the career capital they might need to have a big impact later. > Visit our user guide & FAQ to better understand why we list these roles and to learn about…

I wanted to like that site, but it seems to equate real charities and non-profits that address issues that people actually face with nonsense like MIRI. I would absolutely love a site like 80,000 Hours that wasn't tainted by a weird nerd ideology addressing paranoid fears of a malignant AGI.

No one but you has the exact same notion of "worthy" as you.

Re: Job board to work on problems like climate change and food insecurity

#52

Looks cool. Where do you source these jobs from? How do you make sure to update these frequently.

It’s very manual for now, I used hn who is hiring posts and companies I found during my last job search that are still hiring. Now the at I see a real interest in this I’ll put some more work towards more sources and frequent updates.

Re: Job board to work on problems like climate change and food insecurity

#53
post #10

Like the idea, but I'm confused how companies like: * Primer - Reach your leads everywhere * Andium - Digitizing the Oil & Gas Industry fit into the "problems like climate change and food insecurity" bucket.

Oh, they're making the world a better place [0].

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRUAJVKlUZQ

Re: Job board to work on problems like climate change and food insecurity

#54
post #11

The issue with this site is that someone in tech will inflate the ‘goodness’ of tech projects. I looked at a few companies and they’re hardly world changing. If your goal is doing good things you’d be far better off working at FAANG or investment banking and donating a % of your salary to proven effective organisations than bet on ‘digitising oil and gas’. 80,000 hours does this well https://80000hours.org/job-board/

Many of the jobs on the 80,000 hours board actually seem quite evil: "Research Scientist, AI. Facebook" "Data Scientist, Technology and Resource Investment Decision-making. US Government, Central Intelligence Agency" "Deep Learning Researcher, Computer Vision Algorithms. Baidu"

Get the job, and slow walk it, generate good looking but bad analysis.

Re: Job board to work on problems like climate change and food insecurity

#55

https://80000hours.org/job-board/ > This board lists publicly advertised vacancies that we think could help those with the right fit have a positive impact. Some of these roles help tackle some of the world’s most pressing problems, while others help people build the career capital they might need to have a big impact later. > Visit our user guide & FAQ to better understand why we list these roles and to learn about…

I wanted to like that site, but it seems to equate real charities and non-profits that address issues that people actually face with nonsense like MIRI. I would absolutely love a site like 80,000 Hours that wasn't tainted by a weird nerd ideology addressing paranoid fears of a malignant AGI.

If you think that their advice on the other stuff is good, then consider the possibility that they are smart, reasonable people who came to a different conclusion on AGI. And then consider whether their fears may have merit.

Re: Job board to work on problems like climate change and food insecurity

#56
post #55

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I wanted to like that site, but it seems to equate real charities and non-profits that address issues that people actually face with nonsense like MIRI. I would absolutely love a site like 80,000 Hours that wasn't tainted by a weird nerd ideology addressing paranoid fears of a malignant AGI.

If you think that their advice on the other stuff is good, then consider the possibility that they are smart, reasonable people who came to a different conclusion on AGI. And then consider whether their fears may have merit.

> If you think that their advice on the other stuff is good

I don't. To me, they're just a convenient list of tech jobs at non-profits, or at least they were a few years ago.

> then consider the possibility that they are smart, reasonable people who came to a different conclusion on AGI. And then consider whether their fears may have merit.

There are plenty of smart, reasonable people who don't worry themselves sick over Roko's basilisk, and I choose to listen to them instead.

Re: Job board to work on problems like climate change and food insecurity

#57

Problems like climate change and food insecurity are not technological problems at this point. They are political problems. The job board you want is the board that organizes people to demand political change.

>Problems like climate change and food insecurity are not technological problems at this point. They are political problems

Excellent and simple analysis. I should also add housing (in most parts of the world ) to the list.

Re: Job board to work on problems like climate change and food insecurity

#58
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Appreciate you posting. I would say that the adverse opinions from most people on the board stem from the fact that O&G has been intentionally gaslighting public discourse since the 80s and be helping oil and gas through cost efficiencies you are enabling them to maintain power and continue to pollute. You might have a benefit to lowering the CI of each barrel minutely but really at the end of the day you are hurting…

Well, you couldn't expect any other industry to supply gas lighting.

ba dum ba dum ting! Nice one.

Re: Job board to work on problems like climate change and food insecurity

#59

Problems like climate change and food insecurity are not technological problems at this point. They are political problems. The job board you want is the board that organizes people to demand political change.

> They are political problems That's true by definition. As political systems are very sensitive to technology, doing tech work can be a very effective form of activism.

Political CAN be sensitive, but again even then not in necessarily in positive ways. We have developed the agricultural techniques and technology to significantly mitigate food insecurity and climate change, yet we don’t. So how sensitive and in what ways. At some point government and economic systems have to change.

Re: Job board to work on problems like climate change and food insecurity

#60
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be honest, your homepage doesn't exactly give the impression you're a "saving the environment" company but rather you seem to be targeting businesses who wants to save costs. Here are some excerpts from your landing page ( https://andium.com/ ): - "At Andium, we’re saving companies millions of dollars annually, while increasing safety" - "we offer an ecosystem of automated products and services that provide the ne…

I think realistically they are in the business of making O&G cheaper to extract through efficiencies that gain some climate merit (but very little). It's more like the limited climate benefit is an add-on to core business. The challenge in selling to O&G companies is they don't really care about climate initiatives. They do have concerns but its not their bread and butter there fore you have to package your sell in o…

Very late to this discussion, but O&G absolutely cares about sustainability and climate change ... because there are a ton of activist investors who care about it.

So they have to "put on their Sunday best" or they get shellacked in socially responsible index fund investor calls and press.

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