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The “Granny Knot”

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Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by procinct »

oldandboring wrote: post #38
iandinwoodie wrote: post #6

A few years ago I switched from the "Granny Knot" to the "Ian Knot" [0] in order to (1) eliminate the need for "double knotting" and (2) straighten the bow. Despite the few embarrassing times early in the process where friends observed me struggling to tie my shoes, I can confidently say the switch has been worth it. [0] https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm

I've been using the Ian knot since around 2005 and it's easily the most impactful "life hack" I've ever made. My shoes basically never come untied.

Doesn’t it still produce the same knot as the standard shoe tie knot? I thought it was just a faster method?

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by b112 »

cecilpl2 wrote: post #39
b112 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know why, but the picture of the shoe, with the knot at the toe end of the shoe, makes me angry. I mean, literally angry, very angry, yet there is zero valid reason to be that emotionally charged about it. Intellectually, I wonder "how will one get their shoe off, without lots of work". Yet the anger is intense for some inane reason. Now I wonder if I need therapy, due to some shoe related horror in the past.

> the knot at the toe end of the shoe What are you talking about? That photo shows the knot at the heel end.

Wow. It does. Wild. I literally saw the toe end of a shoe there, due to the darker colour. I wonder how many others will see that first, or if I'm just borked.

(I had to go back, stare at it, enlarge the pic, stare some more, then I saw it the correct way.)

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by leephillips »

zikzak wrote: post #36
leephillips wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After I stumbled upon this site years ago, the Ian knot is how I tie my shoes every time. The hardest part about this knot is making sure that somebody is watching while you do it. Every time I tie my shoes alone, I feel an upwelling of regret, as if there has been an opportunity lost.

There is a special t-shirt folding method with this same property.

I have seen this done but have never learned it.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by dsego »

procinct wrote: post #41
oldandboring wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been using the Ian knot since around 2005 and it's easily the most impactful "life hack" I've ever made. My shoes basically never come untied.

Doesn’t it still produce the same knot as the standard shoe tie knot? I thought it was just a faster method?

One is symmetric, the other one isn't.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by Spare_account »

b112 wrote: post #34
Kozmik1 wrote: post #31

As others have mentioned, Ian's knots has great reccommendations, but overlooked is the "surgeon's knot". This one has two twists instead of the normal one, and comes out like a square knot if done right. It won't come untied by itself, ever. But you can untie it by tugging on the tails of the laces. You can do this one with a thumb on the initial bend, unlike the "bunny ears" style knots. It's a hell of a lot better…

I don't know why, but the picture of the shoe, with the knot at the toe end of the shoe, makes me angry. I mean, literally angry, very angry, yet there is zero valid reason to be that emotionally charged about it. Intellectually, I wonder "how will one get their shoe off, without lots of work". Yet the anger is intense for some inane reason. Now I wonder if I need therapy, due to some shoe related horror in the past.

Are you referring to this picture: https://www.fieggen.com/Dont_Link/finished-Surgeons-Knot.jpg

The perspective of the picture fooled me for a moment too, but this knot is in the usual position.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by toxik »

flatline wrote: post #9
qwnp wrote: post #5

The "Ian Knot"[0] (which, I just discovered, was invented by the author of that site) is quite possibly the coolest and fastest way to tie your shoes. [0] - https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm

That would not work for me. I need to keep one finger on the slip knot at all times or it becomes loose, resulting in a very unsatisfying knot. This has been by far the biggest hurdle to teaching my kids to tie a decent knot in their shoelaces: they can move through the motions just fine but it's always loose. I actually start with my left index finger on the slip knot then transition to my right index finger halfway…

I keep the starting knot taught by simply keeping the ends tensioned at all times when tying.

Re people saying the Ian knot doesn’t come undone: neither do my normal ones.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by ddlatham »

procinct wrote: post #41
oldandboring wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been using the Ian knot since around 2005 and it's easily the most impactful "life hack" I've ever made. My shoes basically never come untied.

Doesn’t it still produce the same knot as the standard shoe tie knot? I thought it was just a faster method?

Yes. I'd guess he means Ian's Secure Knot, which I also now use.

https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/secureknot.htm

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by MildlySerious »

Both unexpected and welcome to see this site on here.

I had never learned how to tie my shoes and some day decided to look it up online. I taught myself the Ian Knot from the pictures on the site and have been using it since. That was over ten years ago and it's still the only way I know to tie my shoes. Thank you, Ian.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by aidos »

flatline wrote: post #9
qwnp wrote: post #5

The "Ian Knot"[0] (which, I just discovered, was invented by the author of that site) is quite possibly the coolest and fastest way to tie your shoes. [0] - https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm

That would not work for me. I need to keep one finger on the slip knot at all times or it becomes loose, resulting in a very unsatisfying knot. This has been by far the biggest hurdle to teaching my kids to tie a decent knot in their shoelaces: they can move through the motions just fine but it's always loose. I actually start with my left index finger on the slip knot then transition to my right index finger halfway…

I keep one of my ringfingers (specifically left hand) on the overhand (starter) knot while I thread the other bits. Works a treat.
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