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First Flight of the Ingenuity Mars Helicopter [video]

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Re: First Flight of the Ingenuity Mars Helicopter [video]

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Cool! I wonder why balloons have not been used much on other planets? Is it the weight of the gas? The USSR had the the Vega 1 and 2 balloons on Venus, but presumably further missions could be pretty useful for studying planetary atmospheres, even for gas giants.

I don't think it's viable for Mars; the atmosphere there is only 1% of what the Earth's is, so (amateur armchair maths) to carry the same payload they'd need a balloon 100x as large, plus something to fill it with lighter than the surrounding atmosphere.

Keep in mind that the lifting power of a balloon scales with volume, not diameter - so something with 100x the volume is only about 4.6 times as big as the equivalent balloon on Earth.

Re: First Flight of the Ingenuity Mars Helicopter [video]

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From https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/nasas-ingenuity-mars-helicopte... , the International Civil Aviation organization gave Ingenuity the the designator the aircraft type designator IGY, the call sign INGENUITY, and designated the Wright Brothers Field in Jezero Crater on mars as JZRO. Hopefully that last one sticks when commercial service begins.

TIL: according the the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum, the copter is carrying a little piece of fabric from the Wright flyer:

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/mars-helicopter-in...

Re: First Flight of the Ingenuity Mars Helicopter [video]

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It made me so sad seeing them cheering and clapping, but not getting up and hugging each other :( So much happiness without the ability to vent it. Such a historical moment.

Sadly relevent xkcd https://xkcd.com/2419/ The title text hit me a little harder than I was expecting: > I've never been that big of a hug person, but it turns out I'm not quite this small of a hug person either.

> I've never been that big of a hug person...

The graph has a rough average of about 20 distinct people per year. Maybe I'm the odd one out here, but that seems quite high.

Re: First Flight of the Ingenuity Mars Helicopter [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't transcoding the video still produce the same amount of heat?

Not that much as it will no doubt be hardware accelerated.

My point is that if you're spending electricity to generate heat, you can divert as much as you want to do calculations with no reduction in the amount of heat generated.

Re: First Flight of the Ingenuity Mars Helicopter [video]

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Is it too optimistic to hope that flights will keep the solar panels clean and Ingenuity could follow the rover some months.

Yes. They said that the Mars window is around 40 something days, and their schedule is around ~5, increasing in difficulty, flights. I suspect after that it will be tucked under the rover. But in meanwhile will be more videos so we have something to look for to in near future. History in the making nevertheless.

After that it will be abandoned.

Re: First Flight of the Ingenuity Mars Helicopter [video]

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Roughly the start of success from the livestream: https://youtu.be/p1KolyCqICI?t=2265 Video (of the video from Perseverance): https://twitter.com/NASA/status/1384099167832735748 (Better version from the livestream in child comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26861334 )

I hope that in a little while we get an actual video like we got when the whole thing was descending onto the ground. I am not expecting much from Ingenuity but I would be very disappointed if we didn’t see any video from Perseverance. I know doing video requires a lot of power, but I really feel it is justified for something like this. It would become a historic video.

We'll get a full video once they have time to uplink it. Unsurprisingly, you can't stream high-quality video from Mars.

Re: First Flight of the Ingenuity Mars Helicopter [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The average age of mission control during the Apollo missions was around 26...

People looked older then, IMO. They smoked, had neat haircuts, and wore shirts and ties to work.

Owned a home, had 3 kids and were looking forward to their 10 year high school reunions.
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