Huawei was able to eavesdrop on Dutch mobile network KPN: Report

Post by kube-system » Mon, Apr 19, 2021, 6:36 PM UTC

MagnumOpus wrote: post #127

justicezyx wrote: post #86

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> outsourced to China previously wrote off all these risks as unimportant and later cried foul when their IP was stolen Give me one concrete example from a reputable source. I'll PayPal you $20 (gift option) look my profile to get my contact information.

User kube-system delivered concrete examples from reputable sources further down the thread. Could you now please post concrete proof of having sent your paypal gift?

Post by DiogenesKynikos » Mon, Apr 19, 2021, 7:55 PM UTC

boringg wrote: post #88

emodendroket wrote: post #17

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I feel we need to read all these stories with a skeptical eye because, frankly, Huawei's become a political football, and there is a very strong motivation to cast events in the most unfavorable light possible by officials who are working backwards from the conclusion. Perhaps they do have some kind of spying master plan but I have found a lot of the fanfare for these stories hasn't held up to scrutiny.

Understand that feeling but Huaweis existence is born from corporate espionage stealing IP from Nortel networks in the 00s. Not a great starting point for a company and it really doesn’t take much of a stretch to see the concern about Chinese party wanting to spy on the rest of the world given the lack of freedom of their own people...

Post by boomboomsubban » Mon, Apr 19, 2021, 9:13 PM UTC

sidlls wrote: post #133

boomboomsubban wrote: post #107

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>Uncontrolled and unauthorized access from China actually took place after October 28, 2009" That does not state Huawei is responsible for that event, it could be the security testing team.

I work at a company that has a sister entity in China. We routinely have to defend against their deliberate, concerted efforts to breach the various firewalls we've erected to keep the networks separate. These are almost always billed as "security scans"--but there's no good reason for them.

Post by boringg » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 1:59 PM UTC

DiogenesKynikos wrote: post #134

boringg wrote: post #88

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Understand that feeling but Huaweis existence is born from corporate espionage stealing IP from Nortel networks in the 00s. Not a great starting point for a company and it really doesn’t take much of a stretch to see the concern about Chinese party wanting to spy on the rest of the world given the lack of freedom of their own people...

That's just not true. Nortel collapsed due to its own terrible management, including a massive accounting scandal. Years later, a former Nortel exec tried to pin the blame on Chinese hackers.

Post by mk81 » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 2:23 PM UTC

dang wrote: post #131

my-hn-account wrote: post #74

Somewhat related to this and, in particular, the comment section: how many of the comments on HN are from cn bots / govt paid trolls? Would be curious to know if there's been research into where comments come from broadly on HN.

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